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Old 09-16-2020, 07:44 PM   #3681
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So on the Sideshow livestream tonight they talked about Giant Size XMen: Storm.

Please let this be a sign of a new PF getting ready to drop. In her new duds.
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Old 09-16-2020, 07:45 PM   #3682
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Old 09-16-2020, 08:03 PM   #3683
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They don't own the rights, but Marvel at the time i believe worked a deal so they had to pay them while using him in comics/merch/etc, makes sense or not Night crawler just falls under that one, probably the rest don't.

Besides it's boring to go over it, he's a big character if they are using him alot just a matter of time to get statues approved. Plus maybe there's other characters ahead of him right now to be made.
Creators have gotten a cut since the 80's when revenue-sharing agreements started. Numbers are all over the place for characters, creators, and media type, but Len Wein supposedly got $500,000 for Lucius Fox in the Nolan movies. David Micheline got nothing for War Machine (too early), but had a massive payday for the $1 billion Venom movie. It's a small percentage, say 1% of profits or 5% of the licensing fee but I don't think the creators have much power over their use, they just get mystery checks based on the past agreements.

Why Nightcrawler is different? No idea. Colossus, Storm, and Nightcrawler were all intended for the Legion of Super-Heroes at DC. When the pitch failed, Cockrum brought them to Marvel which adapted them to add international flair to the flagging X-men series.
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Old 09-16-2020, 11:14 PM   #3684
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So on the Sideshow livestream tonight they talked about Giant Size XMen: Storm.

Please let this be a sign of a new PF getting ready to drop. In her new duds.
Yes! This has to be a sign that Storm is coming...
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Old 09-16-2020, 11:55 PM   #3685
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Creators have gotten a cut since the 80's when revenue-sharing agreements started. Numbers are all over the place for characters, creators, and media type, but Len Wein supposedly got $500,000 for Lucius Fox in the Nolan movies. David Micheline got nothing for War Machine (too early), but had a massive payday for the $1 billion Venom movie. It's a small percentage, say 1% of profits or 5% of the licensing fee but I don't think the creators have much power over their use, they just get mystery checks based on the past agreements.

Why Nightcrawler is different? No idea. Colossus, Storm, and Nightcrawler were all intended for the Legion of Super-Heroes at DC. When the pitch failed, Cockrum brought them to Marvel which adapted them to add international flair to the flagging X-men series.
Exactly. I can see royalties being paid out to creators. They get a certain percentage payment when art/characters are used. That doesn't mean they get control of the characters or decisions on how or when they're used. Bottom line, give us a Nightcrawler PF already!
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Old 09-16-2020, 11:56 PM   #3686
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Yes! This has to be a sign that Storm is coming...
I hope so. Need a 1/4 Storm for my collection.
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Old 09-17-2020, 12:54 AM   #3687
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Colossus, Storm, and Nightcrawler were all intended for the Legion of Super-Heroes at DC.
Huh?
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Old 09-17-2020, 01:15 AM   #3688
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Dave Cockrum when he was doing the Legion of superheroes have designed new characters and Nightcrawler and Storm or at least the designs for them he did design for the Legion. I believe that Storm was supposed to be called Black Cat but I could be wrong. I am not sure what Nightcrawler’s name was supposed to be though. DC editorial at the time rejected them (I do not believe it was the most liberal work environment sense at the time Marvel was way ahead of having characters of diversity than DC was)

I was not aware that Colossus was also intended for the Legion but that would not surprise me
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Old 09-17-2020, 02:35 AM   #3689
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Dave Cockrum when he was doing the Legion of superheroes have designed new characters and Nightcrawler and Storm or at least the designs for them he did design for the Legion. I believe that Storm was supposed to be called Black Cat but I could be wrong. I am not sure what Nightcrawler’s name was supposed to be though. DC editorial at the time rejected them (I do not believe it was the most liberal work environment sense at the time Marvel was way ahead of having characters of diversity than DC was)

I was not aware that Colossus was also intended for the Legion but that would not surprise me
Yup, true.

Storm was made from Black Cat's look and Typhoon's powers.
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Old 09-17-2020, 10:16 AM   #3690
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So on the Sideshow livestream tonight they talked about Giant Size XMen: Storm.

Please let this be a sign of a new PF getting ready to drop. In her 90s Jim Lee duds.
There, fixed it for you
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