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Old 11-30-2005, 08:12 PM   #21
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In my opinion, the AVENGERS is a book that takes mid card, mediocre characters, and elevates them to the statues of the big THREE ( Which will always be Thor, Cap, and Iron Man!)

I think it has been part of what makes the Avengers unique even from the first roster overhaul. If we all went back in time and talked at our local soda bar, we'd be scratching our heads at 3 bad guys joining the team, and two mutants no less!

the Avengers MAKES characters great, OR it makes them worthless. Hawkeye, Black Knight, Hercules, Tigra, etc have all benefitted from their membership whereas Dr. Druid, the Forgotton One, Firestar, and Triathete Guy did NOT!

I am willing to give it some time, but it all boils down to writing! My problem is WHY DID ECHO HAVE TO PRETEND TO BE ANYONE OTHER THAN ECHO WHEN NOBODY KNOWS WHO SHE IS IN THE FIRST PLACE!!!

Remember....Mutants are born,,,hereos are made..........AVENGERS ASSEMBLE!
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Old 11-30-2005, 08:53 PM   #22
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Maybe the only reason Ronin is Echo is because David Mack created her.
Bendis is friends with David Mack.
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Old 11-30-2005, 09:22 PM   #23
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Correct me if I'm wrong, and i haven't read the issue yet, but when cap asked DD to join the 'Spew Avengers' it was because he needed help and info about the hand and everything Japan related-and DD recommended...ECHO?!!?

What possible past would she have with the hand?

Well, he IS blind, maybe Elektra and her were standing together and he pointed at the wrong gal!
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Old 11-30-2005, 09:24 PM   #24
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And why does a Native American call herself RONIN?
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Old 11-30-2005, 09:27 PM   #25
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Actually, she was a Mack rather than a Bendis creation. The thing I don't get is why Cap has a surprised look on his face. Didn't he interview her out of costume at Matt Murdock's recommendation at the beginning of this arc?
He doesn't look confused, he looks constipated!
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Old 11-30-2005, 10:26 PM   #26
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Echo, is a decent character. Granted I am not sure how she fits in with the new avengers. But, overall her character has potential.

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These are just my opinions.
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Old 11-30-2005, 10:46 PM   #27
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I was disappointed when I 1st learned who Ronin was.

I picked up The Avengers Ultimate Guide by DK Press and the info was in there!

I was really hoping it was either Shang Chi or Iron Fist...

I love when Bendis uses obscure/unpopular characters and makes them interesting...BUT this, this was was just a let down.
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Old 11-30-2005, 11:07 PM   #28
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Wouldn't it be great if the very next panel simply had Iron Man raise his hand and atomize her with a repulser ray. Then the Avengers just go about their business like nothing happened?
lol. That would be the best issue ever.
Too bad they spoiled thew hole Ronin thing with the hand books. I'm just glad it wasn't Elektra.
Still not a big fan of "Ronin".
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Old 12-01-2005, 05:06 PM   #29
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Bendizzzzzzz strikes again!! man, after HoM this guy is on FIRE
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Old 12-02-2005, 02:50 AM   #30
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New Avengers is the most overrated pile of dreck in comics today. I've always been a Marvel guy, but DC is KILLING Marvel as far as I'm concerned. Completely destroying the House of Bendizzzzzz.......ZZzzzzz...
....the Hell? Oy vey!.....ZZzzzzzz...the Hell?.......Oy vey!..........the Hell? Oy vey!

All right, I can write dialogue like Bendis!
All right, when I say this I get jumped all over! Dang you Dana! Why do you get away with it and not me.

BENDIZZZ AND THE HOU$E of MUCK SUCKS!!!!!!

I feel a lot better. Did anyone notice Wizard said House of M met all fan expections. What, was fan expectations that it would be pile of dreck!
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