Prime 1: Predator - Jungle Hunter 1:3

[Blade3327]

Originally Posted by Dundee

1. Ripping off a mandible with her bare hands (a creature with skin as tough as kevlar and bone as strong as bricks).

Since when is its skin as tough as kevlar? Predators have gotten shot before. And ripping off a mandible doesn't seem implausible, the skin and bones are thinner at the mandibles than anywhere else on its body. It's maybe as thick as a thumb, with the added benefit of having a 90 degree bend in one direction. Wouldn't take much leverage to snap it.

Originally Posted by Dundee

2. Held down by the neck and managed to kick herself to safety behind the rocks. A preds grip can lift Arnie and adding downward gravity, no way she was going to kick her way out.

She doesn't successfully kick her way out, though. She kicks the ground, but since the Predator is holding her, she only slides backwards and the creature deploys its shield to trap her.

Originally Posted by Dundee

5. Got whacked in the face and got up like nothing happened.

She gets slammed pretty hard into the ground at one point. Not sure which moment you're referring to specifically, but movies in general have so much give-and-take in terms of when characters milk a reaction to a hit and when they get up again that this seems a little nitpicky (unless it's an indictment of modern action films).

My only points of contention with the final battle are:

1. Naru manages to pull the Predator down Black Widow-style after tying the rope around it. Granted, this does happen after the creature's been stabbed numerous times and has lost an arm, so it could be pretty disoriented at this point. It's certainly in worse shape than the City Hunter was in his fight with Harrigan
2. I agree with the placement of the mask being extremely lucky. I think Naru's first idea is getting it to sink in the mud, with the mask being a contingency plan. Having that said, Dutch gets pretty lucky at the end of the first film too. He assumes the Predator will second-guess the passage of spikes and jump down just under the log. The mask is a bit foofier than that, but it's not the craziest turn of events I've seen in this franchise.

I'm more disappointed in the appearance and behavior of this Predator. He doesn't seem nearly as calculating or as alien as he does in the originals, yet he looks the most unrelatable of all of the Predator designs.

[Dundee]

I'm pretty sure the predators bone density is a lot stronger than ours. I doubt we could even rip a tooth out from a dog, bear or even as shark with our bare hands let a creature that can withstand shotguns blasts. I get leverage, but we are talking about a predators skeletal structure, they can ram through concrete walls.

Re the slide, that's the point, even an MMA fighter would have struggle sliding off from a human hold let alone a predators.

I didn't want to mention the rope tie as I'd spoil the entire movie lol. That scene was cringe worthy though.

Dutch was 50-50 luck. The mask placement was less than 1% chance.

[Dundee]

My fav scene by far was the horseback fight with the legolas and co. Very pumping and exhilarating, up there with the best. Some of the best camera and scene shots I've even seen. A-grade material.

Everything except when cheating occured, and everyone's IQ went below 50. The potential is there, just so rough around the edges.

[Blade3327]

Originally Posted by Dundee

I'm pretty sure the predators bone density is a lot stronger than ours. I doubt we could even rip a tooth out from a dog, bear or even as shark with our bare hands let a creature that can withstand shotguns blasts. I get leverage, but we are talking about a predators skeletal structure, they can ram through concrete walls.

But she didn't rip off the tooth, she ripped off the mandible where there's a joint. I don't think we can rip an actual tooth from the Predator's gums any more than we can rip the tooth from a bear's, but a finger-like protrusion that articulates? Certainly. At the very least, it can be snapped or dislocated.

Weird hill to die on, but I'll do it. I thought that was the single most realistic part of the battle. Surprised it's taken us this long to see a character attempt it, but most aren't able to get close enough.

[Dundee]

Originally Posted by Blade3327

But she didn't rip off the tooth, she ripped off the mandible where there's a joint. I don't think we can rip an actual tooth from the Predator's gums any more than we can rip the tooth from a bear's, but a finger-like protrusion that articulates? Certainly. At the very least, it can be snapped or dislocated.

Weird hill to die on, but I'll do it. I thought that was the single most realistic part of the battle. Surprised it's taken us this long to see a character attempt it, but most aren't able to get close enough.

It's not just bone, there is ligament and muscle too. Fair point about dislocation, but when she yanked it off clean, it felt cheap, like she was tearing off some toilet paper to beat the runs. This pred had big, thick mandibles, almost as thick as her wrists. Certainly as thick as a bears fingers. Its lazy writing.

Realistically she could have poked it in the eyes with her fingers, but I guess that'll be a little too comical

[Blade3327]

Originally Posted by Dundee

Realistically she could have poked it in the eyes with her fingers, but I guess that'll be a little too comical

You'd need two hands to poke both of those suckers, given how far apart they are.

[Matson1984]

I thought Prey was a solid 8/10 for me. Probably the best one since predator 2. The predator itself I thought was pretty intimidating. Sure he looked very different but as mentioned he was a different breed. With the mask especially he looked pretty badass. He also looks better when you use a good picture and not a 360p screen grab like the previous one posted lol. If that thing was chasing me id for sure be crapping my pants.

[MASTERSAFARA]

I don’t understand how the Feral Predator sees through its mask.

[Xenoburger]

Originally Posted by Blade3327

The Van Damme suit looks like a completely different type of creature.

The shape of the head and position of the eyes reminds me of Feral's face. Whether that was their intention or not.

Is it the pose?

Mostly, but also the paint. The whole piece has never impressed me much to be honest.

Originally Posted by VILE GUILE

You think just like me when it comes to movies. Lol... First of all, the marketing was so terrible from the start, I was immediately turned off and said I'm not watching this. They were saying the movie will break gender norms and all that typical crap these days. Just like they did with the last Terminator I had to pass on.

I haven't seen it yet, heard just now it was actually good, but after reading what you said, I can tell it will be a let down for me like I knew it would. When they do unrealistic fighting scenes to prop up the strong woman characters, it ruins the movie for me. Besides, what's up with his face? His mandibles are all underdeveloped looking and his mouth is huge... I'm not digging the look either.

None of the advertising said anything about "breaking gender norms" that I can recall, so if that's your invalid reasoning on why the marketing was terrible it's clear what your actual thoughts are. The film did not exaggerate her capabilities because she's a woman. That's just something misogynistic -----holes were hoping would happen so they could spew more hate and vitriol. If anything, her brother was a better fighter, a better shot, and an all-out badass. That was kind of the point though, and he even says something to that effect to her - she was better at improvising/planning. That's how she wins. Same as Arnold.

The fighting issues Dundee has brought up are not a big deal for me because it's the same stuff we see in any film. None of it was in-your-face or anything we haven't seen before. And it absolutely had nothing to do with the fact that she was a woman. I don't imagine any human character would be getting up so quickly and jumping back into the fight after being thrown 10+ feet. But many of them did. And they almost always do. In just about every movie that has ever existed.

The mandible scene did irk me a bit. Like Blade said though, it wasn't a tooth - it was a joint. I can see a person snapping a predator's mandible with their bare hands. Like a human finger. I don't think she should have been able to rip it off so easily though. Very small issue not worth taking points off IMO.

[PivotRyder]

I loved the design of the predator. Its probably just me but I see a lot of Native American influence in its design with its complexion leading into its long straight "dreads" and even its physique. Would not mind a statue with a dynamic pose down the road maybe with a 1:3 bear and him stabbing up into it?