Doctor Strange

[wktf]

Originally Posted by wktf

Hmmm, here's a semi-plausible reason for not making The Ancient One a native Tibetan, so as not to anger China who seeks to control Tibet and not allow it to be a free state, and alienate 1/4 of the global ticket sales China represents. Not sure I buy it but this commercially oriented reason feels better than any creatively based choice.

http://screenrant.com/doctor-strange...itewash-china/

Aaaaand, here's the counter-argument to the above, from none other than George Takei:

http://www.vulture.com/2016/05/georg...-share-vulture

[Hanky Panky]

Originally Posted by wktf

Aaaaand, here's the counter-argument to the above, from none other than George Takei:

http://www.vulture.com/2016/05/georg...-share-vulture

I LOVE George Takei's response to this whole #whitewashing of Asian actors.

"we are talking about the systematic erasure of Asian faces from film and media. It is so prevalent that even when there IS an Asian role that could be played by an Asian actor, it is given instead to a white actor"

Well said Mr. Takei!!!

[Quicksilver]

Originally Posted by Hanky Panky

I LOVE George Takei's response to this whole #whitewashing of Asian actors.

"we are talking about the systematic erasure of Asian faces from film and media. It is so prevalent that even when there IS an Asian role that could be played by an Asian actor, it is given instead to a white actor"

Well said Mr. Takei!!!

so nobody cares when a white comic book character is played by an african american or an asian, but the second an asian or african american comic character is played by a white person its an issue? nice double standard

[Hellboy]

Originally Posted by Quicksilver

so nobody cares when a white comic book character is played by an african american or an asian, but the second an asian or african american comic character is played by a white person its an issue? nice double standard

Welcome to today's politically correct white guilt society.

[Quicksilver]

Originally Posted by Hellboy

Welcome to today's politically correct white guilt society.

I cant even count how many times a character who is white in the comics is portrayed by an ethnicity in movies and tv shows and its mostly high praise from everyone each time it happens, and the extremely rare occassion where an ethnicity in the comic is portrayed by a white person in the movie or tv show all hell breaks loose, its just extremely unfair

realistically though, source material accuracy should be all that matters, if a character is asian in the comics they should be played by an asian on tv shows or movies, same with white characters or african american, I hate when they change this for the sole reason of trying to be "politically correct"

people love to throw out the racism card whenever someone complains about a white character being played by an ethnicity, but thats not the case at all, im equally against ethnic characters being played by white actors as I am against ethnicities playing white characters, its just all so stupid, but I know for sure people would be ok with any white character being played by an ethnicity, but if they cast a white person to play black panther or storm or something people would lose their every loving minds, why is it OK to society to make white characters ethnic but not the other way around?

[ParisDean]

Originally Posted by Quicksilver

so nobody cares when a white comic book character is played by an african american or an asian, but the second an asian or african american comic character is played by a white person its an issue? nice double standard

1. There was a lot of noise here when black and Asian actors were cast as Asgardians in the first Thor movie. And the Fantastic Four movie thread had to be shut down for awhile because of the uproar over making the Human Torch black so saying nobody cares is incorrect.

2. There is no systematic erasure of white faces in film and media. The number of minorities on screen could increase tenfold and it would still be overwhelmingly white throughout the industry and not reflective of the general population so the double standard is acceptable.

[Quicksilver]

Originally Posted by ParisDean

1. There was a lot of noise here when black and Asian actors were cast as Asgardians in the first Thor movie. And the Fantastic Four movie thread had to be shut down for awhile because of the uproar over making the Human Torch black so saying nobody cares is incorrect.

2. There is no systematic erasure of white faces in film and media. The number of minorities on screen could increase tenfold and it would still be overwhelmingly white throughout the industry and not reflective of the general population so the double standard is acceptable.

regarding #1, the people who were complaining would probably be labelled as prejudice by societal standards these days when in reality they were probably only complaining because they wanted the characters to be accurate to the source material, those same people would also complain about ethnic characters being played by a white person so it goes both ways

[Hanky Panky]

Originally Posted by ParisDean

1. There was a lot of noise here when black and Asian actors were cast as Asgardians in the first Thor movie. And the Fantastic Four movie thread had to be shut down for awhile because of the uproar over making the Human Torch black so saying nobody cares is incorrect.

2. There is no systematic erasure of white faces in film and media. The number of minorities on screen could increase tenfold and it would still be overwhelmingly white throughout the industry and not reflective of the general population so the double standard is acceptable.

Great points on both counts. There is something to be said of increasing minorities on screen tenfold and still not having any significant reflection in society. Hollywood has a looooooooong way to go.


Doctor Strange director Scott Derickson just posted his response on twitter today on this matter...

[Parallax]

People just want to complain. I'm sure you've seen the ridiculous "no win" situation people imposed on Iron Fist.

If you cast a white actor, you miss a chance to introduce an Asian-American superhero. But if you cast an Asian actor, it's racist because he's a kung fu superhero.

"Fans" are just stupid. They complain and complain and complain about casting, just to turn around and say "well looks like I was wrong." We've seen it with Michael B. Jordan as Human Torch. We've seen it with Heath Ledger as Joker. We've seen it with Ben Affleck as Batman. There's no sense in arguing it because people never want to give things a chance.

[Hellboy]

Originally Posted by Hanky Panky

There is something to be said of increasing minorities on screen tenfold and still not having any significant reflection in society. Hollywood has a looooooooong way to go.

No question, and I don't think anybody will argue that point. That being said, write the part as a minority and it's a non-issue. You want to take beloved characters from established narratives and change their ethnicity in an attempt to create a better balance in Hollywood then prepare to deal with the criticism. In some cases the change is insignificant and doesn't hurt the core of said character but in others it significantly changes them and as such can upset fans of the original material.