Hard Hero...hello??

[HoldyourfireAl]

Originally Posted by rychehitman

I am not bashing anyone Al...Just wondering what the deal is.

Loric was always going on and on about HH ( to a fault). I dont see why that deserves praise. Everyone has a right to a PRO or CON opinion. You of all people should know that. Many were CON HH and Loric never consistantly respected that position. So now that HH Marvel is gone, why keep beating the drum? HH Marvel fans will not stick with HH. Seth fans will always follow Seth, and now I guess he has sculpted the Ms. MArvel piece for Bowen.

If one is privvy to inside info., he shoudl leave it inside, and not try to give false hope, or press their view points on others.

I am not trying to start anything, and I have nothing against Loric, but he has ALWAYS dodged the questions "Who is he to be speaking FOR HH?", which hae has done on many occasions.

I understand. If Randy had lost the license, I would have been devastated!

[lord odin]

Well it`s too bad the marvel line has come to a close I liked it but I won`t be collecting another HH line.

[HalJordanFan]

Originally Posted by rychehitman

Loric...you NEVER answer this question:

Who are you to always be speaking on the behalf of HH, Seth, or Rob?

You seem to have all the answers but do not reveal WHY you have any answers at all?!?!?

For MONTHS you were saying that HH will be fine and you look forward to many new, spectacular sculpts...and now that doesnt seem to be the case.

HH gained a huge level of popularity with their MARVEL line. Now that that is gone, do you really hope to diminish the disappointment by tossing up smoke and mirrors about other licenses that you seem to have inside information about? Or that Seth is already sculpting for Bowen, etc., etc., etc.

Seth is an amazing talent. He will find plenty of work. I dont think anyone doubts that. But the HH Marvel line is dead at this point. Therefore there are a lot of unhappy fans, like Coug, that will NOT follow HH past their Marvel era. All these months you claimed to know what was going on, and yet it took a dealer to go public for the news to get spread here at SF. Something strikes me as odd about that.

You spoke everything I was thinking here. I just didn't want to once again come off as the "prick" like normal, so I just shut my mouth and let it go. However for MONTHS we had to listen to Loric drop hints on what could be happening like he had inside info. Now it's over and you don't let it go? It makes no sense to me.

Now it's on to the next speculation for HH. Maybe it's this one. They're done. And as for the comment about HH beating BD. That is the biggest joke in our hobby! Simply becuase BD has a Marvel license.

[cougartrace]

Originally Posted by HalJordanFan

You spoke everything I was thinking here. I just didn't want to once again come off as the "prick" like normal, so I just shut my mouth and let it go. However for MONTHS we had to listen to Loric drop hints on what could be happening like he had inside info. Now it's over and you don't let it go? It makes no sense to me.

Now it's on to the next speculation for HH. Maybe it's this one. They're done. And as for the comment about HH beating BD. That is the biggest joke in our hobby! Simply becuase BD has a Marvel license.

now that's fricken unnecessary, Hal

[HalJordanFan]

Originally Posted by loricstone

Uuuhhh.....why you. Dude.....what does (some will beg to differ) indicate to you?

Well, little green lantern baby, it obviously alludes to the fact that not everyone agrees with my opinion about Seth being the best. Others feel Tony Cipriano, or Randy Bowen or Ray Villafane are the best in their opinions. Sheesh! Do I have to spell it out for the Green Lantern Corps or what! Why don't you just use your power ring and smash me between a self made crusher or something.

Oooohhhh....that's right.....I'm composed of that yellow substance you have a dire weakness to.

Humor me Hal. I love messin around with you buddy.

LOL!!!! I'd have chose Bruckner, Paquet, Newman, Moore, Maxddox etc... but those guys are fantastic too!!!

[rychehitman]

Originally Posted by cougartrace

now that's fricken unnecessary, Hal

why?

In terms of business competition....Marvel and BD came to a deal, and Marvel and HH did not.

Its the classic COKE vs. Pepsi showdown. Both companies provide a product. both products have their fan bases. Eveyone has a right to an opinion...

But HH is no longer doing Marvel pieces. So they "lost" the battle of the colas.

If Yankee Stadium sells ONLY Coke Products, but then changes to Pepsi at the end of their Coke contract....isnt that a loss for Coke and a win for Pepsi?

If Pepsi were still allowed to sell bottled water in Yankee Stadium, shoudl Pepsi supporters see that as a victory?

[HalJordanFan]

Originally Posted by cougartrace

now that's fricken unnecessary, Hal

Coug?

What happens to a Cougar when it runs into a Tiger? It either dies or runs! And for the record Loric is only second to you in my favorites to mix it up wiht!!!

I just spoke the truth about the situation......

[loricstone]

Originally Posted by rychehitman

Loric...you NEVER answer this question:

Who are you to always be speaking on the behalf of HH, Seth, or Rob?

You seem to have all the answers but do not reveal WHY you have any answers at all?!?!?

For MONTHS you were saying that HH will be fine and you look forward to many new, spectacular sculpts...and now that doesnt seem to be the case.

HH gained a huge level of popularity with their MARVEL line. Now that that is gone, do you really hope to diminish the disappointment by tossing up smoke and mirrors about other licenses that you seem to have inside information about? Or that Seth is already sculpting for Bowen, etc., etc., etc.

Seth is an amazing talent. He will find plenty of work. I dont think anyone doubts that. But the HH Marvel line is dead at this point. Therefore there are a lot of unhappy fans, like Coug, that will NOT follow HH past their Marvel era. All these months you claimed to know what was going on, and yet it took a dealer to go public for the news to get spread here at SF. Something strikes me as odd about that.

Rych, in all my posts (to my belief), I never stated factual evidence of what they were releasing or when. Nor is it my place to say what they will be releasing before Rob or Seth says it. I do get inside info, but I keep that to myself, just for the standpoint of not revealing anything that could possibly change or not happen at all.

In the case of the Human Torch and Vision that were alluded to by myself and to others, that was because Rob had already told everyone on here and on my forum (PCN.....oh by the way, have you ever seen the link to it from HH's site, that should give you more insight as to why I might know more things than others) that they were coming down the pipeline. Why do you think Rilynil was so fired up! There are other guys on here that can back me up with that.

If you haven't been to HH's site, then you wouldn't by chance know that I obviously have close ties to Hard Hero. Another thing, I never claimed to know 100% what was absolute. If you check my previous posts on this topic, check post #77 you will see words like hunch? which does not in any way denote factual.

And where does the smoke and mirrors come into play? Where does the misleading people come into play? In post #77 I expressed my hopes for future licenses, but in no way said that it was factual.

Lastly, things change Rych. You should know that better than anybody. A few months ago, HH was picking up steam, they were going in great directions with their Marvel line, but Marvel pulled an okey doke, which happens in this business. But not once have I stated factually that this character is definitely coming out, UNLESS I WAS JOKING WITH OTHER HARD HERO FANS. I didn't know that was a crime. It's much like the Gambit PF for SS post that Wolvie posted last week. I knew it was a joke. I don't get uptight about things like that.

So I am not writing this post like I am in attack mode or anything the like, but I feel that you should know why I may say things that others might not. Some of it is in fun, some of it has merit to it. In terms of the Fantasy line returning, in talking, Rob has alluded to maybe going back to the fantasy line! Once again, nothing is concrete and even if it was, I would not say so factually, unless he released that information publicly before it got word here.

Lastly, as to the vendor releasing the info before I did, if I was up earlier than 10AM you guys would have known about it from me first.

[cougartrace]

Originally Posted by HalJordanFan

Coug?

What happens to a Cougar when it runs into a Tiger? It either dies or runs! And for the record Loric is only second to you in my favorites to mix it up wiht!!!

I just spoke the truth about the situation......

Hal you my bud, but I'm still in mourning

[HalJordanFan]

Originally Posted by rychehitman

why?

In terms of business competition....Marvel and BD came to a deal, and Marvel and HH did not.

Its the classic COKE vs. Pepsi showdown. Both companies provide a product. both products have their fan bases. Eveyone has a right to an opinion...

But HH is no longer doing Marvel pieces. So they "lost" the battle of the colas.

If Yankee Stadium sells ONLY Coke Products, but then changes to Pepsi at the end of their Coke contract....isnt that a loss for Coke and a win for Pepsi?

If Pepsi were still allowed to sell bottled water in Yankee Stadium, shoudl Pepsi supporters see that as a victory?

I saw HH vs BD more of a Jolt/Shasta vs Coke/Pepsi. There was no winning....