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04-28-2017, 05:56 PM
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#2511
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Mephisto
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: UK
Posts: 443
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Originally Posted by Timo
My breakout-rex arrived today. Think i will open the package tomorrow after work.
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I don't know how you can do that, I'm like a kid a xmas when I get a statue delivered haha
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04-28-2017, 07:27 PM
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#2512
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Blue Falcon
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 574
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Originally Posted by avenger1212
That one looks pretty rough overall.
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Actually the pics that i've posted are from two different pieces, one from an unsatisfied customer on SF that hasn't bought directly and the other was posted in this thread.
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Originally Posted by avenger1212
The only thing you picture that I can see on mine is the little line of bad casting on the rex's right side cheek. But, even that's about 30% of what I can see on yours, and I can't see it unless shining a light on it and looking closely.
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Yeah, but that's the point of a 500$ figure right?
It has to look good under close inspection or shining lighs.
Otherwise i wouldn't have spent two days for 70% only of just one side of the face.
It's a watercolor work in progress and nowhere near Manu's work, but he have to use much better and less time consuming techniques.
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Originally Posted by Manu81
by the way, in the previous photos, there is also a chip on the eye, right?
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Yes. On the knees, also.
Here the original post.
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Originally Posted by Collectorcol
What's going on Toynami? I thought you were the best in the business...
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They produce ECC stuff, they are the best in the business. Just not with Chronicle.
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04-28-2017, 07:35 PM
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#2513
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Sey hallo to my lille fren!
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 116
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"They produce ECC stuff, they are the best in the business. Just not with Chronicle."
You have to factor in price points! I'm sure Toynami does.
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04-28-2017, 08:12 PM
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#2514
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Justice League
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 269
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Originally Posted by Z71man14
I have them both and they look great. The stego is a lot bigger than the rex though and kind of steals the show. I am probably going to move her
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Thanks for that.
I think I'll pass on the Stegosaurus then.
Your collection looks great, by the way!
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04-28-2017, 10:26 PM
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#2515
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Borrow money from a pessimist, they don't expect it back.
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 765
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Originally Posted by SteveL.
"They produce ECC stuff, they are the best in the business. Just not with Chronicle."
You have to factor in price points! I'm sure Toynami does.
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That's true, however I think if you're gonna provide a sample of what you will paint for the price paid, you should stick to it.
If you compare proto to sample pictures, you can see where the toynami painter eye balled the proto while painting the sample and there are quite a few areas where the two match, like certain spot areas, stripes, and in particular the head. But then in production it's clear that painters were not eye balling a prototype, they were eye balling low res pictures of the proto, maybe even printed paper... and they just went everywhere with the paint app. Basically all of the pieces have zero effort put into the snout area unlike the sample, probably because they didn't know any better.
It makes you want to hulk smash something but I guess the factory just wasn't motivated enough to do the job right. I don't care what the toynami rep's excuse is. It might be the greatest excuse in the history of the world, but the truth is the factory just didn't want to do it right because they didn't get paid enough and they got away with it. I like to think those days are now over, moving forward. Either do what you agreed to or don't do it at all so you don't waste everyone else's time and money.
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04-29-2017, 05:41 AM
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#2516
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Sey hallo to my lille fren!
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 123
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Yes mine is in stock! (Belgium) I`ll probably have it by Tuesday-Wednesday.
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04-29-2017, 06:58 AM
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#2517
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What happens if you get scared half to death twice?
Join Date: May 2008
Location: London
Posts: 1,668
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Originally Posted by Enforcer
If you compare proto to sample pictures, you can see where the toynami painter eye balled the proto while painting the sample and there are quite a few areas where the two match, like certain spot areas, stripes, and in particular the head. But then in production it's clear that painters were not eye balling a prototype, they were eye balling low res pictures of the proto, maybe even printed paper... and they just went everywhere with the paint app. Basically all of the pieces have zero effort put into the snout area unlike the sample, probably because they didn't know any better.
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With all do respect that is not how it works. With a cheaper price point they either pay for workers that are either not as skilled as the ones who paint up the ECC pieces (as Toynami has several factories) or they could be the same group of painters but the quota they get to produce a day is either bigger, or they have less time. I think this second option is much more viable.
For a lower price point you you pay for less hours. Anybody who tried their hands in painting knows that it is extremely time consuming. It takes hours and hours to layer paint and achieve translucency. With lower pay they probably are given that they need to complete let's say 5 units in 10 hours. That's 2 hours a piece. Not enough.
And that is one of the reasons why ECC is so expansive. When Steve set out to do ECC he wanted to create the highest quality collectibles and no compromises. CC wants to provide collectibles at a reachable, realistic price point. And there is the clash. Take it or leave it but that's the truth. Unfortunately with rising prices the world where you could put a figure into a box for $10 is long but gone.
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04-29-2017, 03:40 PM
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#2518
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100,000 sperm and you were the fastest?
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: In a house
Posts: 1,854
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So these are landing in Europe.
Very nervous...
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04-29-2017, 04:47 PM
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#2519
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The quickest way to double your money is to fold it in half and put it back in your pocket.
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 1,457
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Originally Posted by Max Shreck
With all do respect that is not how it works. With a cheaper price point they either pay for workers that are either not as skilled as the ones who paint up the ECC pieces (as Toynami has several factories) or they could be the same group of painters but the quota they get to produce a day is either bigger, or they have less time. I think this second option is much more viable.
For a lower price point you you pay for less hours. Anybody who tried their hands in painting knows that it is extremely time consuming. It takes hours and hours to layer paint and achieve translucency. With lower pay they probably are given that they need to complete let's say 5 units in 10 hours. That's 2 hours a piece. Not enough.
And that is one of the reasons why ECC is so expansive. When Steve set out to do ECC he wanted to create the highest quality collectibles and no compromises. CC wants to provide collectibles at a reachable, realistic price point. And there is the clash. Take it or leave it but that's the truth. Unfortunately with rising prices the world where you could put a figure into a box for $10 is long but gone.
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04-29-2017, 06:17 PM
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#2520
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Borrow money from a pessimist, they don't expect it back.
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 765
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Max Shreck
With all do respect that is not how it works. With a cheaper price point they either pay for workers that are either not as skilled as the ones who paint up the ECC pieces (as Toynami has several factories) or they could be the same group of painters but the quota they get to produce a day is either bigger, or they have less time. I think this second option is much more viable.
For a lower price point you you pay for less hours. Anybody who tried their hands in painting knows that it is extremely time consuming. It takes hours and hours to layer paint and achieve translucency. With lower pay they probably are given that they need to complete let's say 5 units in 10 hours. That's 2 hours a piece. Not enough.
And that is one of the reasons why ECC is so expansive. When Steve set out to do ECC he wanted to create the highest quality collectibles and no compromises. CC wants to provide collectibles at a reachable, realistic price point. And there is the clash. Take it or leave it but that's the truth. Unfortunately with rising prices the world where you could put a figure into a box for $10 is long but gone.
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I don't think you understood what I said. When you send back a sample of the work you can do that says, this is what we can do for what you are paying us, then you should stick to that sample. If you do not then you are in the wrong.
We could have paid 1,000 dollars and the quality of work would go up and that sample would look alot more like the proto than not. I mean, I don't know about anyone else but it's clear even their sample is no where near the caliber of the proto. That was what they could do for whatever CC paid them, except they didn't in production.
What I am saying is basically the exact same thing you are saying, for the record. It's just different ways to view the situation.
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