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11-30-2022, 03:00 PM
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#171
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Crime Syndicate
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Sydney, Australia
Posts: 7,580
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Like always if you can show someone outside the hobby, a photo of the piece from the neck up and they instantly recognise it, than it passes.
I just find that we’re sometimes a bit forgiving sometimes, me included.
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11-30-2022, 03:06 PM
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#172
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Crime Syndicate
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Sydney, Australia
Posts: 7,580
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Originally Posted by Silas Loki
I read the posts related to the Thor bust, and the same tyre kickers came out to play - they come out for every release, like vampires sucking the excitement out of everything.
Plus, what does money have to do with it? What, if this piece cost $3999 it would be great? but as soon as they ask for one cent more - suddenly it's not good enough.
I see this BS with the JND products - people speaking crazy like "if it was $1000, I'd buy it - but at this price...." - if the price determines how good the art is, then buy the cheapest product out there and be done with it.
.....there's no pleasing everyone, this is clear - and I understand if people don't like a product. I'm just tired of reading the same old nitpicks on every release.
Anyway, I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything - you go ahead and post your critiques, don't mind me....it's just my opinion.
I'm offering my 100% support for those who want to be excited about this hobby, I'm sure my opinion won't be popular, as drama and negativity get's views.....and yes, I'm sure some will label my comments as drama and negativity.....but, whatever.
Great piece by Infinity.
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Wasn’t most of the critique about the Thor bust about one or two things. The lack of arms and not enough of the body, and the short hair.
Though I think many were comparing it to the Cap bust at the time.
In essence many here and elsewhere were saying that it was more of a Chris Hemsworth bust, than a Thor bust.
Most actually liked the likeness.
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11-30-2022, 04:02 PM
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#173
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A.I.M.
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Germany
Posts: 4,322
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Phoenixblazes
Wasn?t most of the critique about the Thor bust about one or two things. The lack of arms and not enough of the body, and the short hair.
Though I think many were comparing it to the Cap bust at the time.
In essence many here and elsewhere we?re saying that it was more of a Chris Hemsworth bust, than a Thor bust.
Most actually liked the likeness.
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No need to sweat the details - it doesn't matter what I think.....if people are content to complain (consistently) about their hobby.....then so be it. To me, it's like taking a sh*t in your own bed - they're really only ruining it for themselves. I'm learning to tune it out.
I think both Queen and Infinity are producing awesome busts...as I said, I just can't get into that part of the hobby right now, or maybe ever - unless I want to court bankruptcy
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11-30-2022, 04:02 PM
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#174
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The X-Men
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Missouri
Posts: 1,055
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Silas Loki
I read the posts related to the Thor bust, and the same tyre kickers came out to play - they come out for every release, like vampires sucking the excitement out of everything.
Plus, what does money have to do with it? What, if this piece cost $3999 it would be great? but as soon as they ask for one cent more - suddenly it's not good enough.
I see this BS with the JND products - people speaking crazy like "if it was $1000, I'd buy it - but at this price...." - if the price determines how good the art is, then buy the cheapest product out there and be done with it.
.....there's no pleasing everyone, this is clear - and I understand if people don't like a product. I'm just tired of reading the same old nitpicks on every release.
Anyway, I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything - you go ahead and post your critiques, don't mind me....it's just my opinion.
I'm offering my 100% support for those who want to be excited about this hobby, I'm sure my opinion won't be popular, as drama and negativity get's views.....and yes, I'm sure some will label my comments as drama and negativity.....but, whatever.
Great piece by Infinity.
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I don't think critiquing should equate to negativity, especially if it's constructive. I think many who are voicing their dissatisfaction are/were interested in ordering. I've recently accepted that no bust/or statue will ever have an 100% likeness, but I still think we should try our best to achieve it.
Not to mention, Infinity seems to be warming up to accepting feedback. They asked for and accepted a lot of critiques on their recent Witch-king statue. They even tweaked their Battinson bust due to push-back from the community, and most likely a lack of sales.
Price is absolutely correlated the quality of a product in most, if not all cases. A 100k S-class Mercedes will be vastly superior to a 40k C-class, as it should be. How else would such a price be justified?
Personally, this is the first bust I've seen in a while where I have no complaints. I clearly see Emilia. But if others have some suggestions to improve it, all the better IMO.
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11-30-2022, 04:19 PM
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#175
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A.I.M.
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Germany
Posts: 4,322
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Originally Posted by Brandon
Price is absolutely correlated the quality of a product in most, if not all cases. A 100k S-class Mercedes will be vastly superior to a 40k C-class, as it should be. How else would such a price be justified?
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With respect, I believe you're confusing two topics. Objective "Quality" vs Subjective "Quality" - they're two very different things.
The Queen Studios recent Black Widow was ( objectively) a very well made, and finished product - that conformed to it's original prototype (by and large) - from this perspective I agree with your correllation to price. This is where you get more, if you pay more - referring to better paint apps, more details, etc etc.
However, the QS piece ( subjectively) - in my opinion, failed to resemble Scar Jo.....which could also be linked to a type of quality, reffering (quite rudely) - albeit, unintentionally - to the quality of the artists skill to execute an accurate portrait - subjective, subjective
It's ridiculous to suggest that the issue of lack of resemblance to Scar Jo - would be mitigated if the piece were priced cheaper. Either the piece looks like Scar Jo, or it doesn't - price doesn't change that perspective..
However, this is the level of idiocy I see written here and on YouTube - when the pundits are referring to JND pieces (for example) - and on some of these high ends busts. "Oh, it doesn't look like xxxxxxxx, but I'd buy it, but not at this price" - which immediately undermines their argument, because - reading between the lines - in actual fact, the company doesn't need to change the sculpt in order to win their business, actually, they just need to lower the price.....these twits are using "likeness" to try to justify that price drop.
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11-30-2022, 05:07 PM
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#176
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Birdman
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Belgium
Posts: 350
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Silas Loki
I read the posts related to the Thor bust, and the same tyre kickers came out to play - they come out for every release, like vampires sucking the excitement out of everything.
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It's still up to you to decide if you listen to those comments and let you shape your opinion. To me if I like it, somebody else won't change my opinion. And the other way around. For example my WETA Lara Croft: there is a lot of comments about the paint job, the face likeness which is off... I agree on a lot of points, but overall I just love the pose, the raptors... No other opinions will make me not love it.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Silas Loki
Plus, what does money have to do with it? What, if this piece cost $3999 it would be great? but as soon as they ask for one cent more - suddenly it's not good enough.
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It's not a hard line when it comes to the price, but in the end it's hard to say it doesn't matter. Most people are on a budget, and have to decide if they like it enough for that price. If they were releasing 1:1 busts at $2000, I'm sure I would own one yet. For $4000 I really have to like it not to spend the same money on another 3 1:3 scale statues. So to me the price and the quality are often connected. It's hard not to see the price tag.
This doesn't mean I can't appreciate the look of these 1:1 busts. But budget, quality and interest in the character do matter in deciding to get a statue.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Silas Loki
I see this BS with the JND products - people speaking crazy like "if it was $1000, I'd buy it - but at this price...." - if the price determines how good the art is, then buy the cheapest product out there and be done with it.
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In the same way I read comment as: "for that price I'll pick it up" when it comes to smalles size statues. Expectations are lower, and it seems easier to accept the statue for what it is at a lower price.
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Originally Posted by Silas Loki
Great piece by Infinity.
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I agree. Definitely great likeness, which I feel on these 1/1 busts needs to be really close to make it worth getting. I didn't have that feeling with the Harley Quinn bust, but this one seems quite accurate.
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11-30-2022, 06:18 PM
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#177
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The quickest way to double your money is to fold it in half and put it back in your pocket.
Join Date: Nov 2021
Location: Multiverse
Posts: 1,347
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The likeness of Emilia Clarke is off. The rest is great.
The one from Blitzway x P1 has better likeness.
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11-30-2022, 06:24 PM
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#178
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Teen Titans
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 3,717
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I think size will be the deciding factor for me. I know she’ll be expensive, so I’ll skip that rhetoric. But I’ll want to display her with my Prime 1 Dany and Prime 1 Night King. I have finite space remaining, and a height harrier for the shelves I have them on. So we’ll see. I think she looks good and the scene she’s ripped from is during the apex of GoT.
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11-30-2022, 06:28 PM
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#179
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A.I.M.
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Germany
Posts: 4,322
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hobbyist
The likeness of Emilia Clarke is off. The rest is great.
The one from Blitzway x P1 has better likeness.
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The eye painting on that image of the prototype is really nice, shame it didn't make in onto the production piece.
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11-30-2022, 07:16 PM
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#180
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If you saw a heat wave, would you wave back?
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 2,902
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Like others have said, the likeness is off. That's not negativity or tyre kicking, it's just not as beautiful as clarke really is, IMO. I'm sure it will look impressive in hand but I hope they tweak it to be even better
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