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03-09-2015, 11:07 AM
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Doom Patrol
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: U.K.
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Originally Posted by CallMe_Snake
Yes, I'd love to see more pics of the trip. I promise to keep the geek ranting to a minimum.
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03-09-2015, 03:57 PM
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Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes.
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: West Palm Beach, Fl
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Originally Posted by Morgul Steve
I'm sorry Snake but you are talking about minor differences that most people (myself included) never noticed in the movies. Most of the time it is so dark and the alien move so fast that you don't even get a good look at them.
Even in your pics above sure I can see differences but who cares. To me they both look like Aliens.
But I do prefer the original Giger Aliens.
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I don't see how you can say 'who cares', and then in the very next sentence say you have a preference. Lol
...but ok, sure. You might have lower standards.
If you're a collector who is willing to pay large amounts of money to own a replica or statue of the Alien, then I'd imagine you care about the design of said Alien.. trust me, those aren't "minor differences" in any way, shape, or form.
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03-10-2015, 04:26 PM
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Sinister Six
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: London, England
Posts: 503
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Do you notice that the design gets worse as the Alien films progress over time
Giger's Alien will always be the best for me BUT i must be honest and say The Queen from Aliens was a little special.
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03-15-2015, 07:19 PM
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I took an IQ test and the results were negative.
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Brisbane
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Personally I can't wait to see more alien statues come from the cooperation between chronicle and ADI. Guess I will buy every alien piece if it comes true.
I think ADI did a great job in A3 and A4 as well as avp. Giger's design was great but I cant image seeing exactly same thing through out 5 movies( including the future one). Someone gonna change it eventually.
Some people will prefer the classic design which combines mechanic elements but the other will like organic looking more.
Maybe the design of first cellphone is classic but everyone is looking forward iPhone 6s now.
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03-15-2015, 08:06 PM
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Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes.
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: West Palm Beach, Fl
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Originally Posted by darkmummy
Personally I can't wait to see more alien statues come from the cooperation between chronicle and ADI. Guess I will buy every alien piece if it comes true.
I think ADI did a great job in A3 and A4 as well as avp. Giger's design was great but I cant image seeing exactly same thing through out 5 movies( including the future one). Someone gonna change it eventually.
Some people will prefer the classic design which combines mechanic elements but the other will like organic looking more.
Maybe the design of first cellphone is classic but everyone is looking forward iPhone 6s now.
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Unless Paul says otherwise.. There will be NO alien products from Chronicle. The license is held hostage by another company. Same with Predator.
Paul has addressed it many times already..
Certainly disagree about the changing of the design from one movie to the next for this particular movie monster. Unless there is a specific reason for it like Alien 3 or 4 (different organism).
If this organism is supposed to be the same one in the AVP movies then it makes no logical sense for it to look drastically different.
It especially makes no sense for the aliens in AVP to look like the cloned aliens from part 4 (which takes place hundreds of years into the future, and deals with a version of this organism that didn't exist in present day).
Comparing it to cell phone models differing over the years makes no sense at all.
Anyways, what's done is done. For better or worse, ADI's design choices are what they are. Some might like it, some don't care, lots of Alien fans think they are trash. I'm certainly not alone. Meh...
For a good laugh (and proof my feelings are not in the minority among alien fans... )
I recommend anyone interested in discussing ADI's work on the Alien saga to take a look at the thread over at the AVPGalaxy forums.
The polls on this thread speak for themselves. Lol
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=14402.0
That way we can get this thread back on course and drop the Alien talk..(since unless something major changes... The will be no Alien products from Chronicle anytime soon)
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03-15-2015, 08:42 PM
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Sinister Six
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: London, England
Posts: 503
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Re : Changing alien designs
Ridley Scott has already quoted that the days of a man in a suit have gone, its been done. So unlikely Giger's Alien will ever return.
My hope was the films after prometheus would eventually lead to the point of the real ALIEN 1979 prequal and that Giger's Alien would be seen again.
I agree that the other aliens do indeed look more organic for sure, loosing that wonderful biomechanical look that is much loved.
Now if Chronicle had the chance of making an alien, it would i'm sure be spot on. We can only hope and pray that one day they will get the chance
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03-15-2015, 11:15 PM
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Omega Red
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 9,051
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Originally Posted by ALIEN
Re : Changing alien designs
Ridley Scott has already quoted that the days of a man in a suit have gone, its been done.
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Did he actually say that though? If he did, he's an idiot. All of the Alien movies used people in suits, had they been CGI, they would have been forgotten long ago. There will always been a place for suit work, it can't be replaced, at least not with something of the same standard. It may have moved on since the First Alien, but I think it is part of the originals charm tbh.
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03-16-2015, 08:00 AM
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Sinister Six
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: London, England
Posts: 503
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Originally Posted by Python
Did he actually say that though? If he did, he's an idiot. All of the Alien movies used people in suits, had they been CGI, they would have been forgotten long ago. There will always been a place for suit work, it can't be replaced, at least not with something of the same standard. It may have moved on since the First Alien, but I think it is part of the originals charm tbh.
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I think he was referring to the 1979 movie situation only, a single man in a suit on a space ship jumping on people.
That's what he kinda saying, if i find the interview i'll post it.
All directors these days like to make something on a grand scale, especially when it comes to sci-fi.
He was not talking about never having men in suits again, he would indeed be an idiot to say that, lol!
ALIEN
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03-16-2015, 09:43 AM
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I took an IQ test and the results were negative.
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Brisbane
Posts: 79
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Regarding to "Having a man in a suit", based on tech what film industry having now, of course they can choose to not do it.
Obviously they didn't do that for the hulk, avatar, raptor, etc, or even ironman...they may have built some maquettes or suit for those, but in the movie, most of what we saw is CGI.
What's the reason to have it for alien? A salute to the old fashion?
I agree there is still needs for practical effect , but will only for those close shots ,lighting refs or even background.
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03-16-2015, 09:46 AM
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The Avengers
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Transylvania
Posts: 655
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CallMe_Snake
Unless Paul says otherwise.. There will be NO alien products from Chronicle. The license is held hostage by another company. Same with Predator.
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I assume Sideshow is being referred to here? If it is them, they are slowly starting to annoy me...most of their efforts on any of these 2 lines have been mediocre for the most part
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