Top 10 Raiders?

[TNovak]

So I'm watching the NFL network on my lunch hour today and they have one of their "top 10" shows and today it was the top 10 Raiders of all time. Their list?

10. Marcus Allen
9. Willie Brown
8. Jim Plunkett
7. Cliff Branch
6. George Blanda
5. Tim Brown
4. Ken Stabler
3. Fred Belitnikoff
2. Howie Long
1. Gene Upshaw & Art Shell

Besides the obvious problem that this is 11 top ten Raiders with Upshaw and Shell only counting as one it really leaves off a lot of greats and seems offense and receiver heavy for my tastes.

What about

Jim Otto? (they did include him afterwards as some BS #00 selection)

Ted Hendricks
Lester Hayes
John Matusak
George Atkinson
Jack Tatum
Ray Guy (I know he's a punter but maybe the best punter ever)
Lyle Alzado

I'm sure I'm forgetting others and I don't think all of the others are better than those chosen but I think some are.

What say you?

[adee]

Bo Jackson

There have been a lot of greats in Black and Silver.

[nbr3bagshotrow]

George Blanda?

[statman]

Indiana Jones


... what? He was in RAIDERS of the lost Ark...

[hawkeyethearcher]

marcus allen the internal raider fight player. he would always be on my list but so many raiders have dropped him cause he went to the chiefs.

it is a great list and with so many great raiders i like that they went by dedication and big plays in the superbowl more than anything else. amazing how many of those people are not in the hall

[hawkeyethearcher]

did you see the steelers one. after i watched the raiders top ten i expected the front line steel curtain to be the top of that list instead of just mean joe

[hawkeyethearcher]

i made my top ten list just before the first airing of this

10: jim otto
9:art shell
8: dave casper
7: lester hayes
6: marcus allen
5:gene upshaw
4: fred biletnikoff
3: howie long
2: ken stabler
1: tim brown

wish I knew they were doing 12


george atkinson would make and be the only guy on the list of the meanest, nastiest player ever. i love that man

[TNovak]

Yeah, to me you have to have Tatum or Atkinson just because they personify Raider hitting to me (and I'm not a Raiders fan).

If I were to make a list it would include a consideration of "Raiderishness" as well. Tim Brown and Howie Long probably wouldn't even be on my list.

Great players who played in Raiders uniforms to be sure but what....no arrests? no dirty playing? classy? never been cast off by another team? Sorry. To make my list as a great Raider you would have to play great AND have some Raiderish behavior to back it up. Otherwise you are just a great player who played for Oakland

[bat_collector]

Originally Posted by TNovak

Yeah, to me you have to have Tatum or Atkinson just because they personify Raider hitting to me (and I'm not a Raiders fan).

If I were to make a list it would include a consideration of "Raiderishness" as well. Tim Brown and Howie Long probably wouldn't even be on my list.

Great players who played in Raiders uniforms to be sure but what....no arrests? no dirty playing? classy? never been cast off by another team? Sorry. To make my list as a great Raider you would have to play great AND have some Raiderish behavior to back it up. Otherwise you are just a great player who played for Oakland

so would Randy Moss make your list?

[TNovak]

Originally Posted by bat_collector

so would Randy Moss make your list?

Forgot about him. He is a great player but I don't think he had particularly good years while he was a raider.

Also, unlike most people, I don't happen to think Randy is bad person. He doesn't destroy locker rooms or get thrown in jail or anything.

So for me, no. Randy Moss not on my top 10 Raiders.