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Old 11-19-2020, 09:38 AM   #21
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Joe Quesada's art has never appealed to me. To this day, Dave Cockrum's art does. So, Quesada, was very wrong IMO with his comment.
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Old 11-19-2020, 11:29 AM   #22
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I've done some amateur cyber-sleuthing, and I do believe it's copyright-related. I've read a post or two before, alleging the same, but wanted to try to track down some details.

Some facts:
-Dave Cockrum created Nightcrawler, while in the Navy, before joining Marvel.(*)
-Paty Cockrum, his wife, also worked for Marvel.
-Nightcrawler was Cockrum's favorite.
-Sick, and in financial trouble in 2004, fellow artist Neal Adams tried to persuade Marvel to share profits from the recent success of blockbuster movies.
"though the company argued that it owed Cockrum nothing because he was a freelancer, Marvel ultimately agreed to pay Cockrum $200,000 for Nightcrawler. That amount, which Marvel has never confirmed, was judged insufficient by Adams."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Cockrum

https://www.recordonline.com/article...News/612020330

Speculation:
-A lot of drama here, and I didn't read it all, but it seems Paty was never pleased with the situation, and may be involved in litigation.

http://www.byrnerobotics.com/forum/p....asp?TID=36808

-That litigation may not just involve money owed, but dispute over copyright (different type of Creative Commons License?), specifically my first "fact"(*) - Nightcrawler being created before being employed by Marvel, therefore not "work for hire".

-This may be why certain products have released over the years which included Nightcrawler. They may fall under a group designation, or pre-dated a lawsuit.
Pretty much sums up why we haven't seen anything nightcrawler for a long LONG time.

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Nightcrawler will be made. XM finally got the go ahead, according to the FB group. If they want to turn that 1/6 into a 1/4, I would love that.
They did start using him in the comics again, but probably legal stuff hadn't been worked out up until recently. Heard the same thing that XM had gotten approved so probably end of next year we will see something.

If XM got approved I wonder if SS just got approved as well or if they had gotten approved previously. Then in the next year or two we may be seeing a SS PF.
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Old 11-20-2020, 12:44 AM   #23
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With the exception of the iOS app icon (2018 I think?) the rest are between 2019 or 2020. Not much, but clearly there’s not a ban on Nightcrawler merchandise. Where are y’all getting that from? You can find these in stores now.







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Old 11-20-2020, 12:51 AM   #24
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If Nightcrawler was in the Legion and not the X-Men he’d be just like all of the other Legion...completely revamped every 2 years and in there lost somewhere in the shuffle:



Granted the X-Men have just as many in their number but how many in the Legion are highly notable, compared to how notable the top tier X-Men are, of which Nightcrawler is undisputedly one of them? Statue or not, Marvel, particularly X-Men, was the best thing that could’ve happened for the character.
I can definitely agree with you about how the Legion is now Peedi-Nightcrawler would get lost in the shuffle of the LSH membership.

However, if we are talking about the Legion when Paul Levitz was writing the Legion, then Nightcrawler-like any member of the Legion - would have stood out and been given his own distinctive personality. Even during his 3rd run on the Legion (at least before the NU52), the Legion members all had distinctive personalities and none were ever shoved to the back burner.
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Old 11-20-2020, 03:44 PM   #25
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If XM got approved I wonder if SS just got approved as well or if they had gotten approved previously. Then in the next year or two we may be seeing a SS PF.
That'd be ideal if XM and sideshow released a 1/4 Nightcrawler at roughly the same time. It happened with Sabretooth and Colossus recently. It eliminates buyers remorse and allows us to pick up whichever one we like best.
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Old 11-20-2020, 03:47 PM   #26
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If XM does release a 1/4 Nightcrawler, I hope it's in his classic costume. I don't mind some texturing but I don't want many changes to his classic costume.
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Old 11-20-2020, 10:46 PM   #27
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I hope that's true that XM got the approval to make Nightcrawler.

And I hope that also means SSC will get an approval as well. We sorely need a 1/4 scale Nightcrawler statue.
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Old 11-21-2020, 06:16 AM   #28
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I hope that's true that XM got the approval to make Nightcrawler.

And I hope that also means SSC will get an approval as well. We sorely need a 1/4 scale Nightcrawler statue.
Most definitely, the character is long overdue.
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Old 12-08-2020, 12:37 AM   #29
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I can't wait to hear some news on this. I hope we get a preview or some art renders.
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Old 12-08-2020, 10:20 AM   #30
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Iron Studios has revealed a 1/10 Nightcrawler...

It's high chance that XM will do it soon.. probably sometime in 2021 I hope!! Get ready, guys!!! We would soon be getting a Nightcrawler 1/4 scale statue in our collection in the near future!!
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