Martin Scorsese and Francis Ford Coppola trash MCU

[Josh-a-tron]

Originally Posted by The Dark Knight

art is subjective is the go to word of people who doesn't know anything about art. Yeah, after all architects know what about art... lol Only you know art... xD art expert lol

Yes let me just scrap everything I've learned about art over 30+ years, it's history and my design degree and bow to your ignorance.

Originally Posted by Luminous

The guy is using the architect industry as his defining example of what art is. You're better off finding a stable and literally beating a dead horse. Much better use of your time.

Agreed, debate is over.

[off]

So this thread got fun.

[The Dark Knight]

Originally Posted by Josh-a-tron

Yes let me just scrap everything I've learned about art over 30+ years, it's history and my design degree and bow to your ignorance.



Agreed, debate is over.

I give you the reasons why it's not art, you can't even understand that... i'm also done with this thread. I can't believe people really think super hero comics is art... Do you even know what an Architect is... now who is ignorant... lol

[The Dark Knight]

Originally Posted by The Dark Knight

I think it's time for a short explanation...

I will start with a memory when i was at my first year at university, my best friend was taking second year design lesson. I got in to the lesson to see what was his project. He was like '' i will design a comic book store''... the moment he said comics... the insulting laughter of the teachers came with insulting looks at him... They look down on him like '' what are you, a retarded, comics is for retardeds'' i duly noted that never to bring up the subject of comics... lol

OK, not all comics is retarded, there are art comicses and it seems our design teachers (who are architects themselves) never read them, all they knew was super heroes or something... so they thought all comics was for retardeds. I was a nerd like my best friend, we talked about super heroes endlessly... i was so emberessed... I knew super hero comics was not art, but my teachers saw it so beneath themselves really emberesed me. I liked Batman, it was my guilty pleassure... (now, i even quit batman... can't stand the idiotic writting anymore) it didn't break new ground with its art and writting like an art piece supposed to do, it didn't give any valueable information like an art piece did, it wasn't deep (nothing psychologicly accurate) humans didn't act like human beings unlike an art piece... Glorification of violance and even killing... simply i can say, Art has always been against millitarism. super hero comics is about only raising soldiers... They have an agenda...

Sometimes you hold on to your childhood, Batman was a childhood favorite and i really liked the costume... lol but it was no piece of cloth like a real person ever wear in any era of time... unlike an art piece. All of super hero comics is the same. Super Hero comics is not art... It has my sempaties 'cause almost all of the cartoons which i watched when i was a childe in late 80s and 90s were super heroes, i devoured this ----... lol But don't try to elevate it to something super hero comics is not.

The once in black are the reason why super hero comics is not art... After this if you still think super hero comics is art, that means you can't even understand what you read, and that's your problem.

[d rod]

Take it down a notch or the thread gets closed.

[galactus]

Originally Posted by The Dark Knight

The once in black are the reason why super hero comics is not art... After this if you still think super hero comics is art, that means you can't even understand what you read, and that's your problem.

So, according to you;

1) If it's not new, it's not art?
2) If it doesn't convey information (whatever this is supposed to mean), it's not art?
3) ALL "super hero" comics are violent and about raising soldiers?
4) If it's not realistic (represents something in real life), it's not art?

[galactus]

Originally Posted by d rod

Take it down a notch or the thread gets closed.

I promise to be...nice...

[The Dark Knight]

Originally Posted by galactus

So, according to you;

1) If it's not new, it's not art?
2) If it doesn't convey information (whatever this is supposed to mean), it's not art?
3) ALL "super hero" comics are violent and about raising soldiers?
4) If it's not realistic (represents something in real life), it's not art?

Not according to someone, this is how art works. By information i mean objective observations about life, about politics about human beings or some political system like for example socialism or capitalism or something.

[off]

All we need is some good old fashioned political talk up in here.

[The Dark Knight]

Originally Posted by off

All we need is some good old fashioned political talk up in here.

I won't get into politics, i just give an example... To create art, you must be genious. Art requires extra ordinary intelegence. Only a this kind of guy can make objective observations about politics rather then have an agenda. He's worth listining.