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Originally Posted by chev327fox
Are they only making one? usually they do a set or line of them... right? Not really sure but I thought so (but yeah the fact is took from the game franchise might mean that was all the got the rights to? hope not but really I have not dog in this fight as I cannot afford these statues).
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Yes they did show off a SOB before, though it was a sculpt from someone done previously that they were re-purposing. Which is fine with me as it looked great. Wether that fell through with the original artist or that they decided to failbriel angelos thinking that it would appeal both to TT and DOW fans or that GW decided to have them market a failing game for a boost I'm not sure.
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My image was War from Darksiders Was just showing you a character I like from a different series and why I like Space Marines. But I did type a lot so I forgive you if you did not read it all
Oh, so what happened to the neophites/scouts who were part of the traitor legions when they switched? Did the chaos just make them into space marines automatically at that point? Seems like a plot hole.... or did they just kill them off as weak?
Yes, the backlash of the "dumbing down" of the gameplay that so many die-hard fans feel is what i think is coloring how they see the story and the rest of it. They hate the change so much they cannot help but hate the rest of it... I honestly think that is what is happening with most people (and also becasue of this it is super popular/hipster to hate on DoWIII right now).
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I am familiar with War and his brothers (and sister I guess) from darksiders. They do have a relatively similar physic to space marines.
In regards to dumbing down the game it's not just that. It was dumbing it down to a detriment. For example the original DOW is hardly a tactical game. It's a lot of mindless fun, kinda like Starcraft. It's a very dumbed down RTS. However it is probably the most loved of the series since it's a lot of fum. However DOW3 was dumbed down and not in a good way to the opinion of most. I think the concurrent users for the game speaks for itself, even though it just came out it's already lower in average concurrent users then either of the DOW games. I certainly wish I didn't buy it. It's popular to hate on it cause it's crap. I mean people had high hopes however when I first saw gameplay I was like "wow this looks like a pile of crap".
A lot of things change. For example the new Zelda game is WILDLY different the all the others and people LOVE it. There is a lot of people ready to hate on something if it changes and does poorly because they think they should have stuck to the forumla. However if it changed and was good they'll be like "*PHEW* glad they didn't ---- it up". This isn't one of those. They ----ed it up, big time.
It's popular to hate on because it's bad and people like jumping on the bandwagon. For example a lot of people jumped on the band wagon for hating No Man's Sky. Yes it was popular to hate on, but it became that way because the game does in fact suck and misrepresented itself massively.
As for why Chaos had no scouts there are quite a few reasons for that. Did they have scouts originally? Not really, as it was before the chapter days when the legions turned to chaos. And since then the legions were broken up into chapters and that's how they recruit. However the chaos recruit in different ways depending on the legion, ranging from not replacing at all, to growing them entirely, and a lot of them rely on Fabious Bile's work. But essentially they don't have neophytes in the same way the regular chapters do. I'm not actually 100% sure of this answer but I don't believe the legions recruited during the Great Crusade, essentially being at full strength and having better things and it could wait till afterwards. If you are interested in the lore and have such questions though there is a great subreddit for it:
https://www.reddit.com/r/40kLore/
If you're not aware the setting is over 10,000 years away from the original Horus Heresy which happened around 30,000. The Chaos marines still operate on the original legions while the Imperium follow the Codex Astartes and broke up into 1,000 man chapters. Each chapter cannot go above 1,000 marines strong (for the most part, some awesome chapters like the wolves and black templars make their own rules and during crusades :P). The Codex being written by Papa Ultra Smurf himself who, now that he is back, is actively ignoring it like Christians ignore the old testament :P