New molecule cures Alzheimer's in Fruit flies

[nbr3bagshotrow]

Originally Posted by oddball

i believe i've gone round and round with you before about these types of 'discoveries'. last time cell phones may cure alzheimer's. now it's a cure for fruit flies. these 'discoveries' are published in hopes of securing grant monies, however if they ever attempt to translate this 'cure' to humans, you'll find that they go absolutely no where. if these 'discoveries' hold such promise, where is the case study on actual human subjects that suffer from the disease? this type of research throws a lot of crap against a wall hoping something will stick.

please educate yourself and stop spreading false hope to 5 million people in america that suffer from AD, not to mention the caregivers and their families. here's a great resource with facts about the disease.

http://www.nia.nih.gov/alzheimers

Same thing pharmaceutical companies go through to develop new drugs. 90% at least never make it to the market. Concepts have to be developed, tried on animals to see if they have any impacts before human trials can begin. They spend billions before finding the next lipitor or viagra.

[Bullseye]

I'm all for finding cures but some of these lab coats are really out there. Its just amazing that there is no cure for the common cold or Aids. Or maybe there is but there is more money to be made on drugs to threat them that drugs to actually cure. I've always been curious if pharmaceutical companies held back cures.

[oddball]

Originally Posted by rilynil

So, oddball, what's the answer? Too never fund studies? To just give up? To act like nothing has been discovered since the 1800s?

Give me this "false" hope over no hope any day of the week.

the alzheimer's organization i've worked for over the last 7+ years deals in facts.

until real breakthroughs have been established, keep eating fish and not using deodorant that contains aluminum if it makes you feel hopeful.

[nbr3bagshotrow]

Originally Posted by Bullseye

I'm all for finding cures but some of these lab coats are really out there. Its just amazing that there is no cure for the common cold or Aids. Or maybe there is but there is more money to be made on drugs to threat them that drugs to actually cure. I've always been curious if pharmaceutical companies held back cures.

I seriously doubt that.

[Endless Wake]

Originally Posted by Bullseye

I'm all for finding cures but some of these lab coats are really out there. Its just amazing that there is no cure for the common cold or Aids. Or maybe there is but there is more money to be made on drugs to threat them that drugs to actually cure. I've always been curious if pharmaceutical companies held back cures.

Chris Rock did a great bit on this subject;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7P4iFg048k

[Bullseye]

Originally Posted by nbr3bagshotrow

I seriously doubt that.

Why would you doubt it. There's billions to be made to just threat the problem. If they produced a cure the cash cow would be gone.

[nbr3bagshotrow]

Originally Posted by Bullseye

Why would you doubt it. There's billions to be made to just threat the problem. If they produced a cure the cash cow would be gone.

Because I believe there are a lot more moral people in the pharmaceutical field than not.

[oddball]

Originally Posted by hawkeyethearcher

ok oddball you gotta explain this to me. i have read what you wrote before and now. so from what i understand you think it isi alost cause and the people involved are scum and all testing for a cure should be stopped. why? or am i not understanding what you mean

i don't believe in jumping the gun. obviously fruit flies don't have the same physiology as human beings, so why not wait until we see actual strides on humans with this treatment before we can celebrate?

there have been hundreds and hundreds of these 'discoveries' made over the last 20 years. none have resulted in cures and only a limited amount of these have given us directions to turn in better understanding the disease.

there's an old saying that holds true....don't count your chickens before they hatch.

[hawkeyethearcher]

Originally Posted by oddball

the alzheimer's organization i've worked for over the last 7+ years deals in facts.

until real breakthroughs have been established, keep eating fish and not using deodorant that contains aluminum if it makes you feel hopeful.

ok how do you get real breakthroughs without throwing money at people and hope they get it right. why should these people be ignored instead of showered with cash to take there tests in a positive direction.

[Bullseye]

Originally Posted by Endless Wake

Chris Rock did a great bit on this subject;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7P4iFg048k

Brilliant. Exactly my thoughts.