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Old 10-09-2008, 03:10 PM   #381
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Obama hasn't denouced his relationship with him has he? Not sure if he has or not, but I think he's avoiding the entire issue.
It was not the Reverend Wright he knew.

And also I think they are trying that angle with Ayers.


He didn't know.


So either way, he either is making alliances with radicals, or naive and dangerously uninformed about whom he allianced himself with for years.


Unfit for the presidency.
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Old 10-09-2008, 03:10 PM   #382
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Only to those who dont want it to be known
ummmm no

this was out in the open and very much talked about by him and his campaign in the spring

time to move on
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Old 10-09-2008, 03:11 PM   #383
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I just love how people who work "low tier" jobs are deemed to not work as hard as those that work the "high tier" ones ... it's exactly that kind of elitist smuggness that drives me crazy.

It's always been my policy to treat everyone with the same dignity and respect that I wish to be treated, from my bosses, to the server at my favorite fast food restaurant ... because that could have been me, there but for the grace of God.
Perhaps you missed my point - I was comparing myself to a selct few individuals that I know who vacationed and travelled and "hung out" while I went to 9 years of post high school education. They now believe they are entitled to my salary. That is wrong.

I never said or implied that others did not work hard at their jobs.
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Old 10-09-2008, 03:11 PM   #384
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Only to those who dont want it to be known
Who doesn't know this anymore? If you haven't heard all there is to hear about the Wright story, then you just haven't been paying attention. The Right has been trying to make this story stick since the Spring, and it's never gotten any traction.

I think it doesn't stick because everyone knows of someone they disagree with strongly, and still don't kick to the curb. Happens all the time, even (maybe especially, given the business) among presidential candidates.
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Old 10-09-2008, 03:12 PM   #385
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So either way, he either is making alliances with radicals, or naive and dangerously uninformed about whom he allianced himself with for years.
False dichotomy. It's far from either/or.
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Old 10-09-2008, 03:13 PM   #386
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Who doesn't know this anymore? If you haven't heard all there is to hear about the Wright story, then you just haven't been paying attention. The Right has been trying to make this story stick since the Spring, and it's never gotten any traction.

I think it doesn't stick because everyone knows of someone they disagree with strongly, and still don't kick to the curb. Happens all the time, even (maybe especially, given the business) among presidential candidates.
exactly

anyone who thinks everyone that McCain (or any other politician for that matter) associates with is squeaky clean is just naive
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Old 10-09-2008, 03:15 PM   #387
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He should neither address it nor avoid it because to most, it's a non-issue.
Maybe to you it’s not but to allot of people it is. It’s huge and the way Obama denounced him shows that. That’s not run of the mill mudsling’n as far I’m concerned.
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Old 10-09-2008, 03:15 PM   #388
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I'll be impressed when pharmacutical companies actually try to cure something rather than "treating" conditions there by creating a steady flow of repeat customers.

I need some lunch!
Perhaps you should say this to an entire room of cancer survivors or hepatatis survivors. Or perhaps focus on diseases that have been virtually eradicated in developed countries like Polio, whooping cough, german measles or chicken pox. I guarantee you not one survivor would agree with your statement.
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Old 10-09-2008, 03:18 PM   #389
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ummmm no

this was out in the open and very much talked about by him and his campaign in the spring

time to move on
correct but wright isn't the only one that worries me
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Old 10-09-2008, 03:18 PM   #390
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We already know your preference Bats...and several on this board disagree with you as well.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but a general consensus seems to indicate that Palin is a hottie...
She just looks like every other woman to me. I'm not saying she is ugly, but hottie???? Really????
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