Star Wars Episode VIII: The Last Jedi *spoilers start at post 353*

[qz33]

Originally Posted by JP Sarri

My bad. I will change my photo hosting site over the weekend. Hate Photobucket.

Just to check you do know you can host it here too?

[JP Sarri]

Originally Posted by qz33

Just to check you do know you can host it here too?

I know. I just don't like the format. Limited space and thumbnail size photos.

[Augen]

Originally Posted by Hellboy

I don’t know why it’s so hard for some of you to accept that Luke, in a moment of weakness, did something that was out of character and as such paid a heavy price. This kind of thing happens in everyday life all the time. Much like his father before him his faith was challenged and he lost his way, but in the end found redemption. Just because one doesn’t like how events unfolded doesn’t mean they aren’t plausible.

It comes down to writing and story, not the concept within the plot.

Luke's arc and fall from grace could have been fascinating as where we left him in Return of the Jedi is the sense of an enlightened warrior monk.

Without context the events happen, but they don't feel earned. You could make Luke do all sorts of things that challenge preconceptions, and I'd be open to it.

To me, this is the same story issues I found with Anakin in the prequels. It never felt tragic the way Vader's redemption arc did in the originals.

Maybe it did emotionally resonate with you. I didn't identify or care about any of the characters. I can get over all sorts of issues, but if I don't care about what is happening in a story it all falls apart.

[Hanky Panky]

Originally Posted by Augen

It comes down to writing and story, not the concept within the plot.

Luke's arc and fall from grace could have been fascinating as where we left him in Return of the Jedi is the sense of an enlightened warrior monk.

Without context the events happen, but they don't feel earned. You could make Luke do all sorts of things that challenge preconceptions, and I'd be open to it.

To me, this is the same story issues I found with Anakin in the prequels. It never felt tragic the way Vader's redemption arc did in the originals.

Maybe it did emotionally resonate with you. I didn't identify or care about any of the characters. I can get over all sorts of issues, but if I don't care about what is happening in a story it all falls apart.

You've made some excellent points here!

[Mr. Nice Guy]

Originally Posted by Augen

It comes down to writing and story, not the concept within the plot.

Luke's arc and fall from grace could have been fascinating as where we left him in Return of the Jedi is the sense of an enlightened warrior monk.

Without context the events happen, but they don't feel earned. You could make Luke do all sorts of things that challenge preconceptions, and I'd be open to it.

To me, this is the same story issues I found with Anakin in the prequels. It never felt tragic the way Vader's redemption arc did in the originals.

Maybe it did emotionally resonate with you. I didn't identify or care about any of the characters. I can get over all sorts of issues, but if I don't care about what is happening in a story it all falls apart.

Well said. I was too busy feeling disappointment to feel empathy. They could have told the story much better and to have him throw the sabre over his shoulder and dissapoint us from his first on screen moment I lost interest in his story and just wanted it to be over.

[Gruson]

No classic lines or moments at all either.
Think how many quotes you know from the original trilogy.

I never thought i would be more disappointed in a Star Wars movie that i was with Attack of the Clones but Last Jedi was far worse.
Disasater of a movie on so many levels. Unreal they let this Rian Johnson write that story and ruin Star Wars. Amazed they haven't cancelled his other trilogy.

[Demona]

Quotes come from seeing the movie multiple times. Watch the movie X number of times and I am sure something will click with you. Or with somebody. Give it time.

[JP Sarri]

Originally Posted by Demona

Quotes come from seeing the movie multiple times. Watch the movie X number of times and I am sure something will click with you. Or with somebody. Give it time.

it is a matter of repetition.

[qz33]

"See ya' around kid"
and
"This is not going to go the way you think"

are pretty good to me.

[Hanky Panky]

Originally Posted by Gruson

I never thought i would be more disappointed in a Star Wars movie that i was with Attack of the Clones but Last Jedi was far worse.
Disasater of a movie on so many levels. Unreal they let this Rian Johnson write that story and ruin Star Wars. Amazed they haven't cancelled his other trilogy.

I understand your frustration but I think it's an extreme point of view.

Rian is a capable director and demonstrated this in his other film Looper.

Taking this series into new territory yet also accommodate the OT characters is no easy task and I think overall Rian did a decent job, hence, why Kathleen Kennedy hired him to write the next trilogy.