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04-07-2017, 10:15 PM
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#881
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Captain Marvel
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: NY
Posts: 3,261
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Quote:
Originally Posted by qz33
Just curious as to what the negatives are with the ARH if you were going to have it repainted anyway?
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It was never my intention to have the ARH Barbarian repainted.
After seeing it at NYCC I decided to sell my PO because I prefer the look of the Moore Barbarian. It's my favorite sculpt of Conan.
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04-07-2017, 11:46 PM
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#882
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Doctor Doom
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 16,030
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wolf-brother
It was never my intention to have the ARH Barbarian repainted.
After seeing it at NYCC I decided to sell my PO because I prefer the look of the Moore Barbarian. It's my favorite sculpt of Conan.
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Yeah didn't mean to imply that you were intending to get a repaint. The biggest complaint most have was concerning the production paint job so I was curious if that was it or something beyond what paint could fix.
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04-08-2017, 06:43 AM
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#883
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Yeah, I spend WAY too much time here!
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Hawaii
Posts: 3,822
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Mines was very disappointing, the paint job and parts of the casting on mines was a problem...still had to keep it because the potential is there for a great statue, John Allred's repaint has given me hope for this statue.
Agreed with wolf-brother, Moore's version is still my favorite...just a better flow overall to the sculpt.
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06-12-2017, 12:15 PM
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#884
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Sailor Moon
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 1,214
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I had my unpainted 7of15 nude artist proof up on eBay last week.
No bites.
Fantastic job. Best Ive ever seen.
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06-12-2017, 10:27 PM
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#885
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Birdman
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Texas, USA
Posts: 379
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Quote:
Originally Posted by qz33
Yeah didn't mean to imply that you were intending to get a repaint. The biggest complaint most have was concerning the production paint job so I was curious if that was it or something beyond what paint could fix.
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IMHO there is nothing wrong with the ARH sculpt. Ehren did an outstanding job providing this in 1/4 scale. Nothing against Moore, the small size and making the decision to cut off the girl's legs just didn't work for me. The ARH factory paint is lackluster at best. The detail that can be brought out by a pro painter turns it into a masterpiece. I respect others who may think differently... just my own personal opinion.
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06-13-2017, 05:29 AM
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#886
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Yeah, I spend WAY too much time here!
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Hawaii
Posts: 3,822
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Agreed Ehrin did a great job on conan and slave girl, but I have some nit picks about the overall ARH version...IMO if Frank Sr. was alive he wouldn't approve of it as is...He would have made them make changes, He wouldn't approve the hair length in back because hair length behind left shoulder in portrait would tell you the length it was...it just wouldn't be true or accurate to the source, I don't think he would approve the girls legs dangling off of the base...I know Ehrin was trying to get it portrait accurate and address our concerns but Arahom made the decision to cut down on the base.
I think because Clay worked very Closely with Frank Sr. is why you get a better flow and accuracy with the C.S. Moore statue, I think the back anatomy sculpt on Clays is where it really outshines The ARH version, The ARH back anatomy looks a little wonky to me....just doesn't flow well in my eyes.
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06-13-2017, 09:43 PM
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#887
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Scarlet Witch
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Frozen Wasteland
Posts: 7,865
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Sometimes anatomy changes have to be made. Sticking just with Frazetta stuff Troy had to lift the right heel of Atlantis to make it at least compatible with real world anatomy vs Franks flat footed painting. It is a subtle and needed change.
RE the Barbarians I love them both. Both had to address the base in one way or another, if they had replicated the painting exactly the base would be huge compared to the statue. The way Clay dealt with it was to cut off the slave girls legs, Ehren made it a little steeper and left the feet dangling over the edge to an extent (a mistake IMO, just a little wider base would have addressed that.
The barbarian characters in the statues Clay elected to move the right arm slightly and gives him a much more lithe and athletic look, I also like the back sculpt better on Clay's. Ehren has the arm much closer to the body the whole way down as it is in the painting, which can give it a minor shoulder roll look. I agree on that score I like Clay's just a small amount better but love them both.
As to the slave girl I think Ehren nailed the Frazetta chick much closer than Clay did. Clay is the master of female form sculpting and the slave is much closer to his version of a hot chick than a Frazett chick, IMO.
All in all I have a pro painted PPS Moore with bikini, a factory untouched moore nude, and now a pro painted ARH/Ehren and I love them all.
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06-14-2017, 01:34 AM
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#888
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Yeah, I spend WAY too much time here!
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Hawaii
Posts: 3,822
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I do love both sculpts, Ehren rocked it, like I said the only drawback on Ehren's version is the back for me, the hair I will customize to proper length and I will extend the width on both sides of base to keep it even and under the girls legs so its supported by earth.
I remember asking Clay a long time ago if he could extend the base for me... so it could have the girls full legs or if he would be offended if I had mine customized, I remember him saying he didn't have the time to do it and would have no problem if it was customized...just never found the time to get it done.
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06-14-2017, 02:32 AM
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#889
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Yeah, I spend WAY too much time here!
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Hawaii
Posts: 3,822
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tarim69
I had my unpainted 7of15 nude artist proof up on eBay last week.
No bites.
Fantastic job. Best Ive ever seen.
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How much you had it going for on eBay!...got one of those grey nudes in my collection and am curious what they go for now.
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06-14-2017, 11:00 AM
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#890
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Sailor Moon
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 1,214
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I started it off at 450. I didn't put a reserve on it because eBay wanted to change $20 for a auction with reserve bid.
I haven't been on eBay for awhile... that's a change that suprised me, and I wasn't willing to pay it.
I figured 450 was a good starting point.
I adore the statue..I really love it.Ive had it for 13 years. I'm just getting older.... at a point in my life right now where Im really simplying and toys are less important.
I have a few other statues I may try to sell as well, so I may try again soon.
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