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11-11-2017, 02:39 PM
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#501
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Phoenix
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 12,676
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Originally Posted by Hellboy
Thirdly, with the success of WW I'm worried some of it's weaknesses will carry over to JL. Namely a weak antagonist, an over reliance on CGI and a rather shallow and by the numbers narrative.
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Well, this happens in many big-budget action movies these days. Whatever happened to antagonists who're complex and whose motivations were understandable (but whose actions were not necessarily acceptable)?
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11-11-2017, 03:38 PM
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#502
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Right Hand of Doom
Adamantium Plus Member
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Portland, OR
Posts: 35,567
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gothamite
Well, this happens in many big-budget action movies these days. Whatever happened to antagonists who're complex and whose motivations were understandable (but whose actions were not necessarily acceptable)?
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General Zod - Man of Steel
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11-11-2017, 04:05 PM
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#503
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Baron Zemo
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: The Alamo City
Posts: 16,230
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hellboy
General Zod - Man of Steel
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Yes, the General's portrayal was well done IMO. Trying to save his people and their ways by any means. Noble, if not for the way he wanted to do it.
It was Superjerk and his supporting cast's portrayals that were out of whack in MOS. 
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11-11-2017, 06:02 PM
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#504
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Hellboy
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: São Paulo, Brazil
Posts: 812
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Honestly, a more lighthearted tone is what I´m hoping. I actually enjoyed Man of Steel and BvS, I watched them 2 times each in the cinema, but I personally don´t think these movies are necessarily fun movies. I never saw a kid saying anything about MoS or BvS, for exemple, but I see kids talking about Captain America, Iron Man and the Avengers all the time here. Most superheroes movies should grab the kids attention and inspire them first of all, in my opinion, and the first 2 movies of the DCEU failed at doing that. Thankfully Wonder Woman was a lot better received by the general public and I hope the Justice League movie follows the same path. Of course there is still room for more serious/dark/brutal movies, but they shouldn´t be the norm.
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11-11-2017, 06:07 PM
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#505
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Phoenix
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 12,746
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Quote:
Originally Posted by statman
Yes, the General's portrayal was well done IMO. Trying to save his people and their ways by any means. Noble, if not for the way he wanted to do it.
It was Superjerk and his supporting cast's portrayals that were out of whack in MOS. |
How was he a superjerk?
I thought MOS was the best portrayal of Superman so far (I just wish Nolan would of finished it)... Given when I was a kid I thought Christopher Reeve did an awesome job but those movies do not hold up to time very well, as an adult those Superman movies come off as VERY cheesy.
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11-11-2017, 07:30 PM
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#506
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Imperial Guardsman
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Work: Chandrilar Home: Strontia
Posts: 9,163
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hellboy
General Zod - Man of Steel
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I actually preferred Faora Ul to General Zod in Man of Steel. I thought she was much more menacing and would love to see her come back in future films. She's only stuck in the Phantom Zone, so she should be about ready to break out...
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11-11-2017, 07:30 PM
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#507
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Imperial Guardsman
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Work: Chandrilar Home: Strontia
Posts: 9,163
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Quote:
Originally Posted by statman
Yes, the General's portrayal was well done IMO. Trying to save his people and their ways by any means. Noble, if not for the way he wanted to do it.
It was Superjerk and his supporting cast's portrayals that were out of whack in MOS. |
I loved Man of Steel...thought it was SUPER!
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11-11-2017, 07:40 PM
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#508
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Right Hand of Doom
Adamantium Plus Member
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Portland, OR
Posts: 35,567
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Meteor Man
I actually preferred Faora Ul to General Zod in Man of Steel. I thought she was much more menacing and would love to see her come back in future films. She's only stuck in the Phantom Zone, so she should be about ready to break out...
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I feel the same. She was a fantastic, well developed character & villain. One of the very best in any comic book/superhero film to date and I’d love to see her return as well.
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11-11-2017, 07:58 PM
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#509
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Gen 13
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: High Hrothgar
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If Bats and WW can Cary the movie then I think we’ll see a Flaspoint movie. I’m holding out hope that the others can give a surprise performance like Keaton in the 89 Batman.
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11-12-2017, 12:35 AM
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#510
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Bub Mod
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Canada Bub!
Posts: 9,890
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jesse Custer
Honestly, a more lighthearted tone is what I´m hoping. I actually enjoyed Man of Steel and BvS, I watched them 2 times each in the cinema, but I personally don´t think these movies are necessarily fun movies. I never saw a kid saying anything about MoS or BvS, for exemple, but I see kids talking about Captain America, Iron Man and the Avengers all the time here. Most superheroes movies should grab the kids attention and inspire them first of all, in my opinion, and the first 2 movies of the DCEU failed at doing that. Thankfully Wonder Woman was a lot better received by the general public and I hope the Justice League movie follows the same path. Of course there is still room for more serious/dark/brutal movies, but they shouldn´t be the norm.
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I think you will be happy JL based on what I have read thus far.
This is a pretty decent, and spoiler free, collection of critic impressions for those so inclined.
https://batman-news.com/2017/11/10/j...dia-reactions/
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