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Old 06-18-2019, 10:02 PM   #21
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If you avoid Frank Miller, you are no Batman fan. He put the bat on the map again. I understand the Alan Moore part 'cause Barbara and Killing Joke, ok. You don't like Barbara get hurt like that, understandable. I believe Bendis will be great 'cause his Daredevil run was so extraordinary... that darkness that wraps up that book's atmosphere... just amazing. We need that for Batman.
1) Frank Miller Batman made me wonder if DC had jumped the shark.

2) With regards to Alan Moore, I just have no interest in his work in general. With regards to The Killing Joke specifically, I agree with Moore's appraisal of his own work -- it's a piece of $h!t.

3) What Bendis did on Daredevil has no bearing or relevance for his work at DC.
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Old 06-18-2019, 10:29 PM   #22
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I’m very critical of anything Batman related. He has to be treated just right or it won’t fit with the whole concept of him. Miller never really fit the bill for me, The Killing Joke was great I thought but only because of Bolland’s art. Heard too many things about King to give him a chance. My only shot for Bats seems to be some of the Black Label stuff. I’m the same way with Captain America, thank God for Brubaker.
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Old 06-18-2019, 11:23 PM   #23
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Tom King Batman is really pretty good. He's had a good run with New 52 Nightwing/Grayson and now Rebirth Batman.

You know what really sucks? Rebirth Nightwing. That's some trash writing right there.
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Old 06-19-2019, 12:40 AM   #24
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First look at Batman and Catwoman's reunion:

https://ew.com/books/2019/06/13/batm...omic-tom-king/





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Old 06-19-2019, 12:56 AM   #25
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I definitely will be getting that 12 part series and I love the fact that it looks like Catwoman is going back to her pre Joelle Jones designed outfit (would love to see her in the Jim Balent designed outfit with long hair - oh well, a boy can dream)
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Miller did put Batman on the map again with DKN, but then went off the rails on Batman after that. I love DKN but canít stand Millerís subsequent Batman work. If asked, Iíd say I canít stand him either today, except for his work prior to about 1987.
Case in point about his writing today, even though itís not Batman:

https://www.newsarama.com/45686-best...ne-1-3-10.html
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Old 06-19-2019, 09:31 PM   #27
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1) Frank Miller Batman made me wonder if DC had jumped the shark.

2) With regards to Alan Moore, I just have no interest in his work in general. With regards to The Killing Joke specifically, I agree with Moore's appraisal of his own work -- it's a piece of $h!t.

3) What Bendis did on Daredevil has no bearing or relevance for his work at DC.
I thought Bendisí work on Alias, Daredevil and through most of his Avengers run was top notch. His time at DC on Superman is middling at best, and much of it poor.
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Hmmm...Supes in the Navy.....oooookay.
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Old 06-20-2019, 01:40 PM   #29
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Miller did put Batman on the map again with DKN, but then went off the rails on Batman after that. I love DKN but canít stand Millerís subsequent Batman work. If asked, Iíd say I canít stand him either today, except for his work prior to about 1987.
As far as i know, no one took Batman serious before Miller's The Dark Knight Returns. Everyone was like NANANANANANANANA BATMAN !!! and laughing, Adam West Batman was the most well known Batman, but Miller came and wrote The Dark Knight Returns & Year One and gave Batman his balls back. Nerds started to respect Batman again as a grim and gritty hero. So loving Batman is loving Miller, it goes hand to hand, you can't have one without the other.
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As far as i know, no one took Batman serious before Miller's The Dark Knight Returns. Everyone was like NANANANANANANANA BATMAN !!! and laughing, Adam West Batman was the most well known Batman, but Miller came and wrote The Dark Knight Returns & Year One and gave Batman his balls back. Nerds started to respect Batman again as a grim and gritty hero. So loving Batman is loving Miller, it goes hand to hand, you can't have one without the other.
Untrue. Go back and read Dennis O’Neil and Neal Adams’ Batman. Miller is credited with returning Batman to the dark figure Neal Adams developed, and Finger/Kane before that.

Besides, my point is that after DKR/Year One Miller jumper the shark. Loving Batman may mean loving Miller’s work on DKR/Year One, but not necessarily anything he’s done since.

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