Juggernaut Maquette

[marvelboi77]

Yet he always loses. Heck Spider-Woman, Storm, Colossus, and Angel beat him in Spider-Woman #38.

[Force of Nature]

Hi savage.Cap,
As Master Yoda would say: True, that is...
Juggernaut possesses unmeasured titanic strength and he is virtually unstoppable once he starts moving in a certain direction.
But that does not mean that he is unbeatable; Juggernaut has been defeated a couple of times.
But does not that apply to almost every character in the MU?
Hulk is the strongest one there is but at the same time Marvel published a story in which the Punisher takes out the Hulk by killing Dr Banner.
Depending on the story to be told and the writer in place, I think almost any character can be defeated, outsmarted or even killed.

The Juggernaut is a virtually unstoppable force of nature; the fact that he is not unbeatable makes him more 'real' and likeable IMHO.

Just my two cents though!

Originally Posted by savage.CAP

Don’t need to stop the juggernaut to beat the juggernaut

Rainer

[Mister H]

I’ve seen Ghost Rider beat the Hulk and I’ve seen Wolverine beat Lobo. Depends on the writer as Stan Lee has said himself.

[Force of Nature]

This is a good one; I like it!
The Juggernaut has indeed been beaten and (temporarily) stopped by Onslaught.
In the end it took the combined efforts of many heroes and villains together to stop Onslaught, so the fact that Juggernaut could not take down Onslaught on his own, is in itself not a shame.
Even an Exemplar can only do so much and no one is unebatable.

Besides, it's also good to remember that Marvel is the same company who also released the below cover (as contradictory as it may seem at first sight... )

Originally Posted by frenchyoutoo

Rainer

[Force of Nature]

Hi Mister H,
I think you are absolutely right: depending on the story a writer wants to tell, almost any character in the MU can be beaten.
Almost onone is unbeatable and IMHO that is the way it should be.
It make sthings much more interesting and realistic.

Originally Posted by Mister H

I’ve seen Ghost Rider beat the Hulk and I’ve seen Wolverine beat Lobo. Depends on the writer as Stan Lee has said himself.

Rainer

[Force of Nature]

Hi Rjszar,
This is an interesting question and to be honest I am not sure what would happen.
It is very much possible that if Rogie would be able to touch Juggy, she would be able to distract and weaken him and eventually beat him.

That being said, we know that Juggernaut has a personal force field so it could be that his force field would kick in and would prebvent Rogue from actually touching his skin.

We also know that Rogue almost immediately passed out when she tried to touch Kuurth, the breaker of stone, in an effort to stop him:



It could be that the same thing would happen when Rogue would touch Juggernaut.

Last but not least it would be good to consider if Rogue would want to touch Juggernaut.
Rogue knows the effect of her powers all too well and would she really want to have Cyttorak in her mind and have his mystical energies flow through her?
Some things should be left unexplored and even though Rogue is brave, I think she would think twice before trying to touch Juggernaut.

Just my two cents though!

Originally Posted by rjszar

So, Force of Nature, what does Juggernaut do if Rogue decides she wants to remove her glove and lay a bare hand on old Juggy? She, for a time, absorbs and matches his strength while weakening him. She retains her advantage of flight as well.

Rainer

[Force of Nature]

Hi Marvelboi,
I think this knife cuts both ways: the X-Men do consider Juggernaut to be a serious threat and I believe Juggernaut has kicked some serious butt as well when he took on the X-Men:



Juggernaut is virtually unstoppable; he is however not unbeatable.
Juggernaut is however a force to be reckoned with and I think no one in the MU would ever underestimate Juggy or choose to cross paths with him unless it is absolutely unavoidable.

Just my two cents though; YMMV!

Originally Posted by marvelboi77

Yet he always loses. Heck Spider-Woman, Storm, Colossus, and Angel beat him in Spider-Woman #38.

Rainer

[WolverineFan]

In the X-Men animated series, Rogue tried to absorb Juggernauts powers and she was overwhelmed by it and couldn’t control it

[Comicbookguy]

Didn’t hulk beat juggy countless times just like he did wolverine?

[Demona]

Juggie has been beaten many times, it just takes WORK.