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Old 02-21-2023, 12:01 AM   #341
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That doesn't really answer anything. I'll simplify my take. The HT will be easy to find and the Jazz won't be.
He means the ubiquity of the assumed "lesser" HT version.

The HT version, if available in sufficient amounts, would decrease in value itself which would widen the gap between "settling" for the HT vs paying >2X premium for the Jazz and therefore even fewer people would be willing to do so thus POTENTIALLY decreasing the Jazz's demand below its original retail price.

The Jazz may be superior but not sufficiently so where initial buyers may be paying a premium that could not be recouped on the secondary market when/if someone does want to sell it.

Basically the same argument of how P1 re-releasing sculpts in 1/4, in sufficient quantity, COULD affect the value of the original "superior" 1/3s.
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Old 02-21-2023, 11:44 AM   #342
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He means the ubiquity of the assumed "lesser" HT version.

The HT version, if available in sufficient amounts, would decrease in value itself which would widen the gap between "settling" for the HT vs paying >2X premium for the Jazz and therefore even fewer people would be willing to do so thus POTENTIALLY decreasing the Jazz's demand below its original retail price.

The Jazz may be superior but not sufficiently so where initial buyers may be paying a premium that could not be recouped on the secondary market when/if someone does want to sell it.

Basically the same argument of how P1 re-releasing sculpts in 1/4, in sufficient quantity, COULD affect the value of the original "superior" 1/3s.
are there actual pics of the Jazz 89 batmobile?


on his site all i see are 3, and it's very hard to tell from those pics that the Jazz 89 batmobile is worthy of 2X the cost of this.
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Old 02-21-2023, 10:12 PM   #343
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He means the ubiquity of the assumed "lesser" HT version.

The HT version, if available in sufficient amounts, would decrease in value itself which would widen the gap between "settling" for the HT vs paying >2X premium for the Jazz and therefore even fewer people would be willing to do so thus POTENTIALLY decreasing the Jazz's demand below its original retail price.

The Jazz may be superior but not sufficiently so where initial buyers may be paying a premium that could not be recouped on the secondary market when/if someone does want to sell it.

Basically the same argument of how P1 re-releasing sculpts in 1/4, in sufficient quantity, COULD affect the value of the original "superior" 1/3s.
But Prime making a 1/4 Hush Supes for example won't matter that much because the scales are completely different. The 1/3 has already doubled in price from the original msrp, so even if it dropped a lot in value (which I think it will because there are more 1/4 collectors and the 1/3 is a space killer), it won't go back to retail and original owners could still make a profit.

If we assume Jazz ends up coming out with a clearly superior product, it's not going to matter how many HT Batmobiles are produced. That's just something we don't know yet and is the big wild card. HT already showed their hand and Jazz has plenty of time to substantially one up it.

If anything, this could potentially help the Jazz version be even more rare because people will buy from the larger, well-known company. The 1.0 HT batmobile never did anything to affect the 2 Cinemaquette 1/12 versions that are out there and those are even smaller, yet sell for $2500-3000.

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are there actual pics of the Jazz 89 batmobile?


on his site all i see are 3, and it's very hard to tell from those pics that the Jazz 89 batmobile is worthy of 2X the cost of this.
Nope, not yet. From everything I have seen from them, I don't have any doubts (as of now) that they will deliver.
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Old 02-21-2023, 11:56 PM   #344
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Didn't cinamaquette guns jump out by control and also smoke or something like that? Been awhile since I seen that one tbh
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Old 02-22-2023, 01:50 AM   #345
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Didn't cinamaquette guns jump out by control and also smoke or something like that? Been awhile since I seen that one tbh
Indeed, the second version did all of that. I'm not sure about the first version. Since the Jazz Patbat mobile has smoke effects, light up and sounds via remote, I would be shocked if the 89 doesn't have the same.
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Old 02-22-2023, 11:58 AM   #346
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If it does all that should hold up then. That would be cool. I'm actually interested to see now.
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Old 03-16-2023, 10:40 AM   #347
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Cheaper choice.

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