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Old 05-30-2020, 03:02 PM   #11
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Is Spider-Man worthy enough to lift Mjolnir?
It is hard to say. the same question is, will thor walk up side down on the wall?
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Old 05-30-2020, 11:33 PM   #12
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I consider "worthy" to basically refer to a person's motivations in life and general benevolence of their thoughts and actions. Seeing as being able to lift the hammer bestows the power of Thor upon the individual, having power isn't in itself part of being worthy; you are granted the power to do good by being worthy and wielding the hammer.
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Old 06-03-2020, 10:40 PM   #13
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As much as I love Spider-Man, no. He has too many character defects (as we all do).

To lift mjolnir, one must be pure of heart. I also agree that Captain America is more worthy than Thor.
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Old 06-04-2020, 10:51 AM   #14
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I appreciate all the responses!

I think the question comes down to what does "worthy" mean?

Always trying to do what is right?
Never make a mistake?
Put others before yourself?

I think we all agree it is more than just physical strength.

Because I'm a Spider-Man fan, I want him to lift it, but I recognize he is flawed. But do those flaws make him more or less worthy? Obviously Cap and Thor have both made mistakes and I agree Cap is more worthy than Thor, but part of me feels Spider-Man tries just as hard to do what is right and help others, many time sacrificing his personal life. Isn't that enough?
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Old 06-10-2020, 08:05 AM   #15
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No. He has to much self doubt.
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Old 08-19-2020, 01:59 PM   #16
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Marvelboi is right. The self doubt is likely what would prevent him from being able to lift it but is he worthy? I always go back to A Vs X when he faces down Colossus and Illiana when they are super charged with Phoenix power. He cuts himself off from the other heroes to give everyone a chance to escape. To me it’s that level of self sacrifice that makes him worthy. Sadly the doubt he carries because of past mistakes is his Achilles heel.
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Old 08-20-2020, 08:04 AM   #17
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Marvelboi is right. The self doubt is likely what would prevent him from being able to lift it but is he worthy? I always go back to A Vs X when he faces down Colossus and Illiana when they are super charged with Phoenix power. He cuts himself off from the other heroes to give everyone a chance to escape. To me itís that level of self sacrifice that makes him worthy. Sadly the doubt he carries because of past mistakes is his Achilles heel.
Just some friendly debate, but why does self doubt play a part? If his intentions and motivations are true, shouldn't that be enough to be worthy? His self doubt is a character flaw, but Thor arguably isn't as pure and without flaws as Captain America, but they both have flaws and both are considered "worthy".
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Old 08-23-2020, 06:53 PM   #18
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Old 01-22-2021, 07:46 PM   #19
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Not a snowballs chance in hell.Spiderman is not worthy.

The thing with Cap being worthy is that it also means at a particular time of need. Cap cannot just pick up the hammer at any time and swing it about like a baseball club. Keep in mind, Thor was being defeated by several Gods when Cap in an act of desperation reached for the hammer and the ODINFORCE (which powers the hammer) allowed him that moment to save Thor. Cap threw the hammer to Thor, he didn't go on a superhero rampage and devastate the enemy.
Basically, anyone could be deemed worthy in a time of need, but I doubt even in that scenario anyone other than Cap (and by the way he was the Captain at that time, NOT Captain America - having abandoned that identity in a a way that could be considered humility) would be afforded the same honor.

As for the movies.
They are irrelevant. There is so much they got wrong in those films I don't consider them "canon" in any way.
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Old 01-26-2021, 11:23 AM   #20
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Not a snowballs chance in hell.Spiderman is not worthy.

The thing with Cap being worthy is that it also means at a particular time of need. Cap cannot just pick up the hammer at any time and swing it about like a baseball club. Keep in mind, Thor was being defeated by several Gods when Cap in an act of desperation reached for the hammer and the ODINFORCE (which powers the hammer) allowed him that moment to save Thor. Cap threw the hammer to Thor, he didn't go on a superhero rampage and devastate the enemy.
Basically, anyone could be deemed worthy in a time of need, but I doubt even in that scenario anyone other than Cap (and by the way he was the Captain at that time, NOT Captain America - having abandoned that identity in a a way that could be considered humility) would be afforded the same honor.

As for the movies.
They are irrelevant. There is so much they got wrong in those films I don't consider them "canon" in any way.
Interesting. I'm not up on Thor history so I never considered that the Odinforce decides not only who is worthy but when. And I guess with Aaron's recent run, clearly you can become unworthy after wielding it for some time.
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