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Old 03-06-2018, 09:35 AM   #31
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But why does commercially cancerous preachy garbage have to mean “quality” these days?
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Old 03-06-2018, 09:40 AM   #32
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isn't that the problem he's talking about though? that the Hollywood D-bags are so far up their own cracks these days that they actively campaign against movies people actually like for borderline activist crap?

my favorite part of the evening was the obligatory "they eat their own" moment of Emma Stone announcing the best directors as "4 men and Greta" only to be attacked because some of the men aren't white so she should've given them credit for being as such, cause ya know ---- white men!
I'm not following because the majority of the movies nominated for best picture , actor or actress weren't "borderline activist crap". Please tell me how you see interpret that.

As for Emma Stone's comment and the reaction to it -- the people who make comments on the men not all being white missed her point entirely. Sexual harassment, gender pay disparities, and gender inequities have nothing to do with the man's race. So all men can f**k off
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Old 03-06-2018, 10:04 AM   #33
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If your movie is Sci-Fi or Comedy your automatically disqualified.... every blue moon they feel pity and nominated one but for the most part 99% of the nominations are dramas. And when they do nominate one is usually a poor choice like The Shape of Water... The movie was ok but no way Movie of the year....

This is why the Oscars are so boring and why their ratings keep dropping.... They keep nominating movies most people have never seen or heard of....

Trying to think but has their been a movie that has made over a billion dollars nominated for an Oscar (other then technical awards?) you would think if a movie makes well over a billion dollars it most be really liked by the general viewing audience but no they nominate movies that barely make $20 million....
I actually saw a video that the total gross of the best picture nominations has been declining since the 1970s. Going from best picture nominations averaging $400 million gross (adjusted for inflation) to now only $70 million gross.

When discussing this the question is how culture and the awards have changed over 40 years. The value people use to put in movies were stars and buzz, today it is all about brands. Tom Hanks and buzz could get "Forrest Gump" to be a huge commercial success, today people didn't show up for "The Post" (I thought that movie was average to be honest though).

Here were the highest grossing movies worldwide of 2017

10. Pirates 5
9. Wonder Woman
8. Guardians of the Galaxy 2
7. Justice League
6. Spider-Man: Homecoming
5. Beauty and the Beast
4. Despicable Me 3
3. Transformers: The Last Knight
2. Fast and Furious 8
1. Star Wars Episode 8: The Last Jedi

Note: Tthink Jumanji 2 may have cracked into this due to long legs

I enjoyed Wonder Woman and Guardians of the Galaxy 2, but I understand they aren't best picture level movies. Everything else I would rate as okay to terrible on this list above.

My idea: "The Popular Picture Award" where you take the ten highest grossing movies and vote which of them is the best. People could argue and get excited because they've likely seen Fast and Furious or Transfromers and given the competition might think they're favorite has a shot. It could get average film goers talking and debating generating interest.

Last edited by Augen; 03-06-2018 at 10:30 AM. Reason: I cannot seem to find a definitive top ten grossing movies. Thor and Wolf Warrior were other ones I found
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Old 03-06-2018, 11:12 AM   #34
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When it comes to actresses who don’t get paid as many “millions” of dollars as men do, or minority directors who don’t get their fair share of shiny trophies, I couldn’t give less of a crap. Now when it comes to teachers, doctors, civil servants, or whoever works in the real world, that is what gets my attention. Not interested in listening to rich folks ----- and moan about other rich folks.
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Old 03-06-2018, 12:20 PM   #35
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Most of everything is awful though...
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Old 03-06-2018, 12:28 PM   #36
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and the Award for Best Actor goes to...


Vin Diesel! Fast and Furious 22!
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Old 03-06-2018, 12:48 PM   #37
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But why does commercially cancerous preachy garbage have to mean “quality” these days?
No one here is saying that.
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Old 03-06-2018, 12:57 PM   #38
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I actually saw a video that the total gross of the best picture nominations has been declining since the 1970s. Going from best picture nominations averaging $400 million gross (adjusted for inflation) to now only $70 million gross.

When discussing this the question is how culture and the awards have changed over 40 years. The value people use to put in movies were stars and buzz, today it is all about brands. Tom Hanks and buzz could get "Forrest Gump" to be a huge commercial success, today people didn't show up for "The Post" (I thought that movie was average to be honest though).

Here were the highest grossing movies worldwide of 2017

10. Pirates 5
9. Wonder Woman
8. Guardians of the Galaxy 2
7. Justice League
6. Spider-Man: Homecoming
5. Beauty and the Beast
4. Despicable Me 3
3. Transformers: The Last Knight
2. Fast and Furious 8
1. Star Wars Episode 8: The Last Jedi

Note: Tthink Jumanji 2 may have cracked into this due to long legs

I enjoyed Wonder Woman and Guardians of the Galaxy 2, but I understand they aren't best picture level movies. Everything else I would rate as okay to terrible on this list above.

My idea: "The Popular Picture Award" where you take the ten highest grossing movies and vote which of them is the best. People could argue and get excited because they've likely seen Fast and Furious or Transfromers and given the competition might think they're favorite has a shot. It could get average film goers talking and debating generating interest.
Comparing the above list to the top grossing movies from, say, 40 years ago, there was much more of a balance among sci-fi, action, comedy and dramas back then.

1. Star Wars
2. Smokey and the Bandit
3. Close Encounters of the Third Kind
4. Saturday Night Fever
5. The Goodbye Girl
6. A Bridge Too Far
7. The Deep
8. The Spy Who Loved Me
9. Oh, God!
10. Annie Hall

People's tastes have indeed changed.
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Old 03-06-2018, 01:07 PM   #39
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Here were the highest grossing movies worldwide of 2017

10. Pirates 5
9. Wonder Woman
8. Guardians of the Galaxy 2
7. Justice League
6. Spider-Man: Homecoming
5. Beauty and the Beast
4. Despicable Me 3
3. Transformers: The Last Knight
2. Fast and Furious 8
1. Star Wars Episode 8: The Last Jedi

Note: Tthink Jumanji 2 may have cracked into this due to long legs

I enjoyed Wonder Woman and Guardians of the Galaxy 2, but I understand they aren't best picture level movies. Everything else I would rate as okay to terrible on this list above.

My idea: "The Popular Picture Award" where you take the ten highest grossing movies and vote which of them is the best. People could argue and get excited because they've likely seen Fast and Furious or Transfromers and given the competition might think they're favorite has a shot. It could get average film goers talking and debating generating interest.
Augen, try BoxOfficeMojo.com: http://www.boxofficemojo.com/yearly/...yr=2017&p=.htm

As for giving awards to popular movies, there's no shortage of those, from the People's Choice Awards to the MTV Movie Awards.
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Old 03-06-2018, 01:36 PM   #40
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Is that you, Grumpy Cat?
hey most things do suck, that just makes the few good ones all the more enjoyable no?
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