Sideshow is mopping the floor with the competition. She wants her throne back

[nearmint]

Originally Posted by Forps is back

Let's repeat it in my main thread.

Do we have to?

[Forps is back]

Originally Posted by nearmint

Do we have to?

Well, it is my thread, so yes, i believe, it is useful to have it in this giga-thread. You are not obliged to comment here if you don't want to. You can always comment on LBS, Darks, Tweeterhead threads.

I want useful comments to be here also in order to have this thread operating as a hub for any neat idea or comment regarding Sideshow.

[nearmint]

Originally Posted by Forps is back

You can always comment on LBS, Darks, Tweeterhead threads.

Gee, thanks.

I was thinking of making some lunch. I hope that's okay.

[Forps is back]

Originally Posted by nearmint

Gee, thanks.

I was thinking of making some lunch. I hope that's okay.

Ofc. No problemo.

[Forps is back]

Let's repeat it again.

Guys, Wolverine 1/3 having the crazy high (for you though, Forps was, once again, spot on) ES of 1500 is also an ominous sign of things or better said of doom to come for Sideshow's competition.

Sideshow is clearly outselling competition by a factor of 5x or even 6x. ALONE. And we're talking her competitors as a whole!!!!

2024 Sideshow is a different beast. All of her new pieces (bar Elektra and Batman) are excellent sculpts and their edition sizes are good bearing in mind the difficult market situation and that her competitors are struggling.

1500 for Wolverine, 875 for Batman vs Joker Diorama, 1250 for new Spiderman PFF, 2200 for Batgirl, 1075 for the 2 Hulks, 2000 for Red Sonja.

Taking also into account price points, i can bet that Sideshow alone outsells the totality of her competition (bar maybe Blitzway) during 2024 by a factor of 5x.

This doesn't bode well for other companies and they should adjust asap.

Just imagine Sideshow announcing a 1/3 Harley sculpted by Godbottle. KOs handed, left and right.

Sideshow is cleaning the mess, mopping the floor and preparing to end, ONCE AND FOR ALL, the discussion about the best company. It has always been Sideshow along with Infinity Stud, ECC and Blitzway.

Now Sideshow please get in touch with Blitzway that keeps Prime1 relevant these days, sign a deal with Blitzway for movie pieces (the segment where Sideshow lacks) and let's end the farce that started ~ 10y ago with the emergence of XM and Prime1.

Sideshow is not kidding, guys. She is clearly following what the doctor, Forps, prescribed ~1y ago and she is currently KOing the competition.

[Forps is back]

The problem with Tubers and why Sideshow MUST cut ANY existing or remaining ties with them

Tubers are one of the 2 biggest problems in this hobby. I won't go into details but let's write 1-2 things.

The biggest problem is their ILLUSION that they influence anyone in this hobby. Simply check their NON-SHORTS videos. They barely make 2-3k views on their NON-SHORTS videos.

Noone gives a .... about what they promote or their agendas. They think that guys paying ~1000 bucks or 3k to buy a product are going to get influenced by Tubers ? We are ALL way smarter than they think.

Also influence? WHO watches their shows or lives? Nearly NOONE. 2-3k are PEANUTS for Tube. They got "big" ONLY due to Shorts. They barely had 10k or 20k followers with 2-3k views at most before the "Shorts' era" on Tube (Tube wanting to compete with Tik-Tok promoted the Shorts).

Due to Shorts and Shorts being promoted by Tube, they got many followers but their lives and their long videos still have PEANUTS regarding actual views. 2k-3k views.

They have delusions of grandeur.

NOONE CARES, guys. In this hobby, guys having disposable money to pay for such things are not FOOLS.

The community slowly starts to get what is really going on and agendas getting pushed.


Secondly, their role is NOT to fangirl about companies or even retailers wearing shirts of companies or retailers. Their role is to STAND NEXT to the average collector and criticise companies. They are 100s things happening behind the curtains and their role is not to simply fangirl about certain companies or retailers while some of them mock Sideshow or whatever company does not comply with their opinion or agenda.

Thirdly, the rise of XM or other similarly operating companies can be attributed to many things amongst them being Tubers. It is not time to get into details, i bet that many of you know what was going on and how XM was promoted and Sideshow constantly mocked.


So, how to solve this issue?

1) They must calm down. They think that they are "Gods" when in reality their actual non-Shorts videos have 2k-3k views. Shorts are being viewed by 15 old guys having 0 disposable income and viewing for 15-20seconds. NOONE cares about your REAL, LONG videos or lives.

Stop being c..ky or having delusions of grandeur.


2) Companies must IMMEDIATELY cut any ties with them. IMMEDIATELY. Sideshow should NEVER again even talk with them. She talks through her MAGNIFICENT PRODUCTS.

Do not fall for their demands or agendas. You don't need to, Sideshow. Your products speak for themselves and your 2024' success speaks for itself.

I also respect Prime1, ECC or Blitzway for keeping the same stance.


3) They must stop fangirling over companies or retailers or wear shirts of certain retailers or companies.

They are there to also comment about companies NOT delivering, about problems in the hobby, about crazy HIGH pricing, about subpar products, about delays, about collectors not getting their money from resellers etc.


Are there any good Tubers and guys, Forps is happy to listen? Yes, they are. Archangel is one. He has NO AGENDA and he promotes NOONE. I love Archangel. The everyday collector is another having nowadays a horde of people going after him. I also like Child of the Atm. Guys with a good eye, with NO agenda and ready to criticie companies for their failures etc.

Companies should also want guys to express their opinion and not to fangirl over them. To criticize their mistakes, their bad sculpts etc.

Check how Sideshow left Forps mocking her Arsham line and venting against her CEO's decision to put that monstrosity of a line up for PO. Check how Sideshow leaves Forps going after the new Batman PFF being a miss.

Why? Cause Sideshow knows that Forps or Tbolt have good intentions. They want Sideshow to improve.

Sideshow is smart. She "listened" to me, Tbolt, qz33 or other guys providing advice or help and took the necessary measures in order to change and become a better company.

Nowadays, Sideshow is KOing the competition. She took what Forps' said, what Tbolt, what qz33 etc proposed, she applied changes and she won.

THIS IS THE WAY (Mandalorian-style).

Companies only wanting to have guys promoting their product or fangirling if someone gives an interview to them are not on a good path.


Community, STAND UP.

Time to clean up the mess, to stop fangirling over companies or retailers/resellers. They have their work to do, we have our work to do. Community needs guys to also stop sugarcoating things and to stop pushing their agendas.

Companies should also respect guys not salivating over them. They can help them to improve.

My love for Sideshow also stems from this fact. That Sideshow stopped giving a F..K about Tubers, about their "opinions" and their agendas. THIS IS THE WAY.

She also leaves guys and collectors expressing their opinions, even hating some of her sculpts (check what me, Tbolt, qz33, BurningRage or other guys wrote against Arsham line or the new Batman or D.B. sculpts).

BRAVO, Sideshow.

Bravo, Prime1, ECC, Blitzway.

Now CUT any existing relation/tie with them and leave your product, your QC, your sculpts to speak for themselves.

The decision to also not attend SDCC was the right one. SDCC is only for Tubers to wander around Sideshow's booth all day in order to make videos/shorts hoping to get views/becoming viral/getting money. Sideshow was losing TONS of money by attending SDCC. She can revisit her stance in 2y time.

[BB&WSF]

Question: What if Sideshow herself wants her products to be showcased by "Tubers" on their channels? I mean, this is the era of digital marketing, right? YouTube is just one of the many sales promotion techniques / platforms any company would employ in these times (like Facebook, Instagram, SEO, whatever works). I am not sure if Mr. Beast would charge Sideshow to do an episode on what SS does; but if that happens, it could certainly be fruitful; even if people make a one-off small purchase from SS. Of course the "Tubers" do not have that high a reach, but even if it's 50 new people watching a "Tuber's" unboxing video, it would not be a bad thing for SS, correct? If nothing else, people would be getting aware of SS (the first step in AIDA model). Unless, SS is paying out to them big time, cash or kind, and the outflow-inflow of money does not make financial sense.

Regarding cutting away any existing relation/ties and leaving their product, their QC, their sculpts to speak for themselves, maybe SS can enhance and promote their own YT channel. Get someone onboard who knows how to talk, conduct interviews, persuade, sell, etc. Why do you need someone else? I remember they had folks like Paul Hernandez and others who were quite active on Sideshow's social media. Not sure how much business they were able to rake in, but fan engagement during Spooktacular and other events a few years ago on FB used to be a thing. Stuff like that can help too.

[qz33]

He means the hype train. Hype showing unpainted sculpts is what allowed XM to get where it is and now you are seeing their hype train crash and burn. This hobby needs to contact not expand.

[Forps is back]

Originally Posted by BB&WSF

Question: What if Sideshow herself wants her products to be showcased by "Tubers" on their channels? I mean, this is the era of digital marketing, right? YouTube is just one of the many sales promotion techniques / platforms any company would employ in these times (like Facebook, Instagram, SEO, whatever works). I am not sure if Mr. Beast would charge Sideshow to do an episode on what SS does; but if that happens, it could certainly be fruitful; even if people make a one-off small purchase from SS. Of course the "Tubers" do not have that high a reach, but even if it's 50 new people watching a "Tuber's" unboxing video, it would not be a bad thing for SS, correct? If nothing else, people would be getting aware of SS (the first step in AIDA model). Unless, they are paying out big time, cash or kind, and the outflow-inflow of money does not make financial sense.

Regarding cutting away any existing relation/ties and leaving their product, their QC, their sculpts to speak for themselves, maybe SS can enhance and promote their own YT channel. Get someone onboard who knows how to talk, conduct interviews, persuade, sell, etc. Why do you need someone else? I remember they had folks like Paul Hernandez and others who were quite active on Sideshow's social media. Not sure how much business they were able to rake in, but fan engagement during Spooktacular and other events a few years ago on FB used to be a thing. Stuff like that can help too.

If Sideshow wants to promote her product, she should go to Tubers that have a MEANINGFUL following like MrBeast, you've mentioned (though impossible bearing in mind that he would ask for millions). Tubers having 2k-3k actual views (@their lives or non-Shorts videos) are a WASTE of time and recourses for Sideshow.

That Star Wars grl, carly king was a better choice for promoting Sideshow's Star Wars stuff or bby Yoda. She has >15-20k views in her long-format videos. Or even Adam's Savage's Tested. 100k views in his videos (non-Short one's).


Also sending stuff for reviews to Tubers in this hobby creates relationships Sideshow would probably need to cut (i know that she maybe had some ties with a couple of them). Or else she could become a PRISONER of THEIR AGENDAS subject to change at any given moment.

Sideshow needs 0 pushing or hyping. XM needed, LBS needs, Sideshow doesn't.

I screamed this ~ 1y ago and Sideshow listened (check what i proposed and 2024's Sideshow followed with the result? KOing the competition and selling at least 5x-6x times what her whole competition sells, even in the current climate).

It's a slippery slope to give in to Tubers and also Tubers with ZERO actual influence on this hobby.

You are also mistaking SHORTS followers and subscribers and SHORTS views to VIEWERS of your LIVES, PODS or lengthy videos. Check yourself and you are going to "get" what i'm saying.

Having a relationship with MrBeast or carly king or Adam's Savage's Tested WORKS and could bring new customers on board.

Having ties with Tubers with PEANUTS as views on Tube, won't and you are also endangering becoming a prisoner of their agendas.

There are Tubers Forps' respects (Forps respecting a Tuber, says a lot).

Archangel is one. I love that guy. Or Child of the Atm aka Atim. Or the everyday collector who is the SOLE Tuber asking "hard" questions eg a company had ~70-80 new POs the last year, only delivering what? 7-8 pieces with them also having QC issues? What is happening there ? (an answer would be that "we are now increasing the pace of product delivered" etc, but then he could answer "so, from now on, the community DEMANDS for every 4 POs per month, to also get 4 products in hand". not talking about the fact that with interest rates so high, they are also making money from interest)? Or when he asks what is going on with a reseller/retailer not delivering products to collectors for months and months and months? He asks stuff everyone else is afraid to ask. How anyone could not admire his COURAGE to not SALIVATE over companies or retailers? He has the courage to do it when noone else even dares to raise any question.

Archangel, the everyday collector or Atim are guys the community must preserve AT ALL COSTS. What was the best Tube show? DCX (Darth Castle's one). Atim was there, Archangel started there. That was the best show with minimal agendas getting pushed down collector's throats

One last thing to close this discussion cause i'm bored of Tubers and their agendas. The whole community is probably bored of them.

If i were let's say Prime1 (random company), i would LOVE a guy like Forps stepping in and giving his thoughts or raising questions.

If i were Sideshow, i would love to listen to Tbolt's or qz33 critique regarding D.B. male sculpts.

Forps LOVES VickPS or MPCanes and i beefed with them (crazy fights). I love though listening to their opinions, to their arguments.

We are not living in a "La-la-la" world, guys. Having Tubers constantly SALIVATING all over you or "interviewing" you without asking any REAL question (difficult) i mean, DOES NOT MAKE you better.

The community is here to express her opinions, her worries, her questions. Companies/resellers should do their job, the community/collectors their's.

So let's end it here.

I respect Sideshow, Prime1, ECC, Blitzway, any company that doesn't give in to this madness.

[The Dark Knight]

I just want to remind you Forps, a company can never love you back, no matter what you do.