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12-10-2023, 03:05 AM
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#351
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Zot
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 5,682
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Originally Posted by reavengeance
I was wondering as i couldn?t find it on the description, but is the platinum version (the one with rooted hair) made out of polystone or silicon? The rooted hair makes me think it is silicon and hair being punched into the head, along with glass eyes. I?m concerned about humidity and deterioration for silicon. Would spring for platinum if the figure body and head is polystone?
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It?s only resin.
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12-10-2023, 01:34 PM
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#352
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The Herculoids
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 490
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Quote:
Originally Posted by reavengeance
I was wondering as i couldn?t find it on the description, but is the platinum version (the one with rooted hair) made out of polystone or silicon? The rooted hair makes me think it is silicon and hair being punched into the head, along with glass eyes. I?m concerned about humidity and deterioration for silicon. Would spring for platinum if the figure body and head is polystone?
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On Blitzway's page it says the platinum head will be made from Resin (PU). I have no idea what kind of resin it is exactly.
The regular and deluxe head will be made from PVC, ABS.
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12-10-2023, 01:44 PM
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#353
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Justice League
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Earth
Posts: 286
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Me personally would have preffered it to be silicon espesally at that price.
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12-10-2023, 04:14 PM
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#354
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Hydra
Join Date: Dec 2020
Posts: 997
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Originally Posted by csutkakoma
On Blitzway's page it says the platinum head will be made from Resin (PU). I have no idea what kind of resin it is exactly.
The regular and deluxe head will be made from PVC, ABS.
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That's a much softer material. Can it warp/deform in certain temperatures or humidity?
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12-10-2023, 04:29 PM
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#355
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The Herculoids
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 490
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Resin (PU) is a lot more resistance to heat and cannot deform as easily as PVC. It is a lot better material. That much I know. It supposed to be much better at showing textures and paint than PVC. Also it is more fragile.
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12-10-2023, 04:40 PM
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#356
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Hydra
Join Date: Dec 2020
Posts: 997
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Originally Posted by csutkakoma
Resin (PU) is a lot more resistance to heat and cannot deform as easily as PVC. It is a lot better material. That much I know. It supposed to be much better at showing textures and paint than PVC. Also it is more fragile.
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Yeah resin should be a lot more durable to temps. I don't mind fragility (just don't drop it lol) and prefer temperature resistant materials.
PVC and ABS man I'm not so sure of those, when I see those materials I think of warping if pressured by weight or heat.
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12-10-2023, 05:41 PM
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#357
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Sinister Six
Join Date: May 2019
Posts: 515
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I wouldn't worry about the head being PVC. According to them, it gives better details than resin. Head is light and top piece so no stress. I have their first Maryln for years and no issue.
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12-10-2023, 09:54 PM
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#358
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Nightwing
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: US
Posts: 1,556
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Originally Posted by Dundee
PVC and ABS man I'm not so sure of those, when I see those materials I think of warping if pressured by weight or heat.
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For something like a head, there should be no concern. It's a solid piece of plastic and isn't bearing any weight so unless you plan to bake it or hit it directly with a heat gun (which is inadvisable on any statue), it should be fine.
ABS is even less likely to sag, that's why X-Plus (a Japanese company specializing in hollow PVC vinyl figures) uses it for the wings on their figures.
All of these materials are made using different mixtures, some better, some worse, some heavier, some lighter. Most of the time a company will err on the cheap side to boost their bottom line and sometimes the cheap side will actually be heavier. Whatever the material, all it needs to do is retain detail, support whatever weight it needs to (if it needs to), and not deteriorate indoors. Beyond that, I assume it's cheap crap. The value lies in what we make with it.
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12-10-2023, 10:05 PM
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#359
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Phoenix
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Secret Sanctuary
Posts: 12,305
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Blitzway has always used PVC for their portraits. Not sure why they're going with resin for the platinum edition.
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12-10-2023, 10:09 PM
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#360
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Nightwing
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: US
Posts: 1,556
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Originally Posted by nearmint
Blitzway has always used PVC for their portraits. Not sure why they're going with resin for the platinum edition.
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A purer, higher quality resin mix perhaps? Something better than polystone or PVC?
For anyone who hasn't seen this, Faken from PureArts (and a longtime collector on here) was nice enough to break down the variations in this material stuff on the Batman '89 cowl thread. For context, I asked him if polystone is cheaper than pure resin and if the material they touted for the cowl is different than either of them. His response added to my, shall we say, indifference towards polystone and heavy weight when evaluating the quality of a piece.
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Originally Posted by Faken
So yes, pure resin is definitely more expensive than polystone, which is basically stone dust mixed with resin and the more stone dust you mix in, the more brittle it gets. Polystone is amazing for details, easy to work with, has good heft to it etc, but it's VERY rigid and brittle and breaks easily. That's why we use Polyresin for most of our statues... it gets the details you want but has a bit more flex to it so it doesn't break as easy. It's also more expensive than polystone.
A great example of this flexibility in action is on our Animus Bayek statue. We had a number of people that received their statue and the keyed foot pegs no longer lined up with the holes in the base. Likely due to the curing process still in progress ever so slightly so the legs shifted enough to knock it out of alignment. To fix it, all you had to do was lock in the back foot, and then pull on the front leg with decent force until it bent and locked in to the front hole. Once that was in, you could leave it for a few weeks and the shape would be corrected and you could pull the body off the statue and put it back no problem.
If you tried that with Polystone, you would end up with either the back or front leg shattering off the body.
So all these different resins and compounds are numbered by whatever company makes it. They don't really have names, they are just things like Compound 52227 or something like that, and which compounds are used by a company and how they mold and cast with it are usually closely guarded secrets as some can be very costly or difficult to do.
The compound we are using for the cowl itself is really different and honestly, amazing! It's actually derived from the poly material used for vinyl, but it's unlike any vinyl you've touched. The best way I can describe it is it feels like a car tire. Both in terms of the dry rubber feel and the rigidity, yet it's not in any way made of rubber, which of course like latex breaks down over the years. It's also got some good weight to it, it definitely doesn't feel flimsy in your hands, that's for sure.
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